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Worse Than Mud (by Danielle Allen, Stalker of Freepers)
The Washington Post ^ | Thursday, July 10, 2008 | Danielle Allen

Posted on 07/09/2008 10:07:48 PM PDT by kristinn

...How important is calumny today? In 2000, calumny effectively led to John McCain's defeat in South Carolina. That smear campaign against him used robo-calls and fliers, and e-mail also played an important role, as the New York Times reported in February 2000. Arguably, calumny defeated John Kerry in 2004, and the infamous Swift boat television ads of that summer were, importantly, preceded by an aggressive Internet campaign begun that January that included perhaps the first viral campaign e-mail: a computer-generated image of Kerry and Jane Fonda beside each other on a podium at an antiwar rally. The image originally emerged at the Web site FreeRepublic.com, and Fonda had not in fact been at the event. But the damage was done. Today we are seeing viral anti-Obama e-mails, some of which I have traced to some of the same origin points for the 2000 and 2004 smear campaigns.

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A right to free speech is no excuse for lying. While strongly protected rights of free speech are critical to a healthy democracy, rights bring responsibilities. Citizens should, as a standard practice, take responsibility for their views -- the matters of fact and principle that they wish to put before the public for consideration -- by appending their full, legal names to their expressions, even in blog posts. While there are times and places for anonymity, it should be the exception. Unfortunately, the Internet has brought us to a point where anonymity is the rule, not the exception. Rather than facilitating free speech, this is corrosive to democratic discourse. It's time to rebuild a responsible culture in which people speak in their full, legal names and honor the truth.

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Link to original Washington Post article detailing Allen's stalking of Freepers, aided by The Post's designated stalker of Freepers Matthew Mosk.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008election; academia; andymartin; danielleallen; freerepublic; googlinggenius; matthewmosk; media; msm; obama; partisanmedia; unfit; wp
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To: kristinn

The WP howling for truth is about as sincere as Mugabe professing love for white farmers.


101 posted on 07/10/2008 4:31:57 AM PDT by sergeantdave (We are entering the Age of the Idiot)
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To: goldstategop; kristinn
Translation: The MSM has the right to lie all it wants. Conservatives on the other hand should go home and sit down and shut up!

Oh, you forgot DemocRATS can lie and not get challenged by MSM.

102 posted on 07/10/2008 4:33:26 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Looking for a good time? Call 555-tag-line.)
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To: Southack

Which set of photos were posted on FR?

http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/kerry2.asp


103 posted on 07/10/2008 4:35:53 AM PDT by EBH ( ... the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness. --Alculin c.735-804)
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To: kristinn
A right to free speech is no excuse for lying.

The NY Times didn't get the memo. Neither did the Washington Post, the Atlanta Journal Constitution, the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the LA Times, nor any of the rest of the left-wing print media. You can add Reuters' and the AP to that list as well.

104 posted on 07/10/2008 4:35:58 AM PDT by meyer (Government is the problem, not the solution.)
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To: Southack

That snopes pic shows Kerry actually and verifiably sitting behind Fonda at a rally but they link to another fabricated pic of Fonda and Kerry at the same podium. Which pic appeared on FR?


105 posted on 07/10/2008 4:40:48 AM PDT by saganite
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To: kristinn

The Compost and little miss investigator...what a pile.


106 posted on 07/10/2008 4:48:13 AM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: Southack; kristinn
Thanks for the link. I checked that sight and found so many similarities between then and now

Article:

The New York Times covered the Valley Forge in 1970:

VALLEY FORGE, Pa., Sept. 7 — Chanting "What do you want?" and answering "Peace now," more than 100 veterans of the war in Vietnam arrived here today after a four-day march and led 1,500 other people in demanding an immediate American military withdrawal from South Vietnam.

The marchers, with weary muscles and blistered feet, formed a battle skirmish line in front of the Washington Memorial Chapel at the state park here and walked slowly on the wide expanse of the park's rolling grand parade ground. Their chants were answered by a growing chorus from the crowd below shouting "Stop the war, stop the war."

The marchers carried with them several black body bags that counted in white lettering outside the 43,419 men killed in the war.

Then, as the veterans converged on the rally site, they and the audience joined in the chant "All we are saying is give peace a chance."

The rally, which was organized by the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, a Manhattan-based group, ended an 84-mile march that began early Friday morning outside Morristown, N.J. Along the route, the marchers staged simulated battle incidents that portrayed alleged American brutality and war atrocities in Vietnam.

Although other veterans were in the crowd this afternoon, most of the audience that sprawled on the freshly mowed grass were young persons.

Earlier, as the column moved into the park after marching under a bright sun from its campsite north of here, a small group of veterans supporting American military policy in Vietnam established a counter-demonstration across the street from the chapel. As the line of marchers moved past, the opposing veterans exchanged insults.

David MacQueen, a 48-year-old member of the Veterans of Foreign Wars who said he won eight battle stars in the South Pacific in World War II, held a sign that said "Only the mentally depraved want peace at any price."

Another supporter of the war, carrying a Confederate flag, shouted "traitor" and "coward" as the marchers went by.

Among the speakers at the rally were Representative Allard K. Lowenstein, Democrat of Nassau County; Donald Sutherland, the actor; Jane Fonda, the actress; Mark Lane, the civil rights and antiwar lawyer and Charles Bevel, a leader of a black group from Baltimore, which is marching to the United Nations to protest alleged American genocide in South Vietnam.

The rally ended when the marchers smashed the toy sub-machine guns they had carried for the last four days.

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Now they have Veterans Against the Iraq War. And, one paragraph jumped at me:

Until and unless the current U.S. Administration provides evidence which clearly demonstrates that Iraq or any other nation poses a clear, direct and immediate danger to our country, we oppose all of this Administration's pre-emptive and unilateral military activities in Iraq. Furthermore, we cannot support any war that is initiated without a formal Declaration of War by Congress, as our Constitution requires.

Excuse me - but didn't Congress do just that?

Oh, here's a photo of a march by VAIW I found.

Can someone please tell me what kind of flag they are flying in the foreground? So many people trying to bastardize Old Glory, it makes me sick.

107 posted on 07/10/2008 4:57:24 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Looking for a good time? Call 555-tag-line.)
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To: metesky; kristinn
As I posted on the original thread over here.

Ironically, historians have spent a lot of effort to uncover the identities of the writers over time, but the anonymity was instrumental to the free and fair debate of ideas---apart from the personalities.

Pseudonym Author Notes
A.B. Francis Hopkinson Federalist.[1]
Agrippa James Winthrop[2] Eighteen essays appeared under this name in the Massachusetts Gazette between November 23, 1787 and February 5, 1788.[3]
Alfredus Samuel Tenney Federalist.[4]
Americanus John Stevens, Jr.[5]
Aristedes Alexander Contee Hanson Federalist.[6]
Aristocrotis William Petrikin Anti-Federalist.[7]
An Assemblyman William Findley
Brutus Robert Yates[8] Anti-Federalist. After Marcus Junius Brutus.
Caesar Alexander Hamilton?
Candidus Benjamin Austin[9]
Cato George Clinton[10] Anti-Federalist.
Centinel Samuel Bryan Alternately, the author possibly was George Bryan.[11]
Cincinnatus Arthur Lee After Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus. Six essays addressed to James Wilson appeared under this name in the New York Journal beginning November 1, 1787.[12]
A Citizen of America Noah Webster
A Citizen of New Haven Roger Sherman
A Columbian Patriot Mercy Warren[13]
A Countryman Roger Sherman
A Country Federalist James Kent
Crito Stephen Hopkins
Examiner Charles McKnight
Federal Farmer Anti-Federalist. The Federal Farmer letters are frequently attributed to Richard Henry Lee, but modern scholarship has challenged Lee's authorship.[14]
Foreign Spectator Nicholas Collin[15]
Genuine Information Luther Martin
Harrington Benjamin Rush
Helvidius Priscus James Warren[16]
An Independent Freeholder Alexander White
John DeWitt
A Landholder Oliver Ellsworth Thirteen essays, some of the most widely circulated commentary on the proposed Constitution, appeared under this name, with the first publication coming in the Hartford papers. The essays were certainly written by one of the Connecticut delegates to the Convention, and Ellsworth is the only likely possibility.[17]
Marcus James Iredell
Margery George Bryan
An Officer of the Late Continental Army William Findley[18]
A Pennsylvania Farmer John Dickinson
Philadelphiensis Benjamin Workman
Philo-Publius William Duer
Phocion Alexander Hamilton
A Plain Dealer Spencer Roane[19]
A Plebian Melancton Smith
Publius Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, John Jay After Publius Valerius Publicola. Under this name the three men wrote the 85 Federalist Papers. Hamilton had already used the name in 1778.,
A Republican Federalist James Warren[20]
Rough Hewer Abraham Yates
Senex Patrick Henry? Published an article in the Virginia Independent Chronicle, August 15, 1787, which was reprinted in four states. James McClurg wrote that the author was "supposed by some to be Mr. H---y."[21]
The State Soldier St. George Tucker
Sydney Robert Yates[22]
Timoleon After Timoleon of Corinth.
Tullius George Turner?

108 posted on 07/10/2008 5:30:04 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: kristinn

Dr. Allen, For the love of God! Is Obama a Muslim or Not! Answer the dang question! Sheeze...


109 posted on 07/10/2008 5:38:14 AM PDT by avacado
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To: kristinn

Dr. Allen seems to have a particular dislike for Free Republic, doesn’t she?

Byron York has some thoughts up here at The Corner on this article and topic:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MGViNmY5MTIxYjA5ZWI0NGZiZjVkYjU0OWNiOTg3Zjg=


110 posted on 07/10/2008 5:43:11 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Enchante
Exactly right!

Where was she when calumny was being exercise with great glee against Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas?

As ye sow... so ye shall reap

What's good for a goose is sauce for a gander

Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones

etc.

111 posted on 07/10/2008 5:45:21 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: poindexter

Exactly. #108.


112 posted on 07/10/2008 5:53:42 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: kristinn

I refuse to read this. Under the law and constitution, I have the right of free speech. I intend to keep it that way.

In point of fact, the Left constantly and consistently and intentionally lies about America, conservatives, and Republicans - in fact, anyone who disagrees with them.

We need more and freer political discourse in this country, not less. People who appoint themselves the arbiters of free speech are a curse on this nation.


113 posted on 07/10/2008 5:56:44 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Does Obama know ANYONE who likes America, capitalism, or white people?)
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To: kristinn
Citizens should,... take responsibility for their views — by appending their full, legal names to their expressions, even in blog posts.

Including POTUS candidates like Barack Hussein Obama?

114 posted on 07/10/2008 5:56:49 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: NormsRevenge

The article was full of calumnious facts...


115 posted on 07/10/2008 6:01:41 AM PDT by tubebender (Why does a round pizza come in a square box?)
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To: kristinn

Danielle Allen , isn’t a match for Free Republic, we will be here long, long afer Obama is history...which should be in November.


116 posted on 07/10/2008 6:05:20 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: Alia

How about going after phony soldiers who claim to have served in Vietnam or Iraq but did not yet they slur our troops’ morale with lies about witnessing and participating in “war crimes”?

Nope, the Left is only to happy to smear those who out such frauds.

And then there are the phony journalists. Code Pink is now manufacturing their own “press passes” to try to infiltrate McCain’s political speeches and cause disruption.

How about investigating phony “Reverends”?


117 posted on 07/10/2008 6:09:10 AM PDT by weegee (Hi there!)
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To: Earthdweller
Interesting study in futile narcissism and ideas of grandeur.

I think you've summed it up best.

Allen probably has bad dreams about being chased by those dreaded right-wing Freepers. Obviously she (and her publishers) seethe about us during daylight hours.

LOLOL!

118 posted on 07/10/2008 6:10:02 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (I didn't leave the republicans, they left me.)
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To: Lamchops
WARNING!!! FAKE:


119 posted on 07/10/2008 6:11:10 AM PDT by weegee (Hi there!)
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To: ReignOfError

You own it by the act of creation. When Andy Warhol copied photos of flowers out of a science textbook, he was sued for copyright violation and paid.

The silkscreened paintings and reproductions of them (e.g.postcards) did not magically transfer to the company that owned the stock photo of the original unmanipulated photo.

Snopes may have a “newsworthy” fair use claim to show the photos (that was the claim a judge asserted when he permitted a pornographer to sell copies of a stolen videotape from Pamela Lee’s house). The judge’s excuse was that the trial had MADE them newsworthy.

If Snopes HAS a fair use, then so would FR. Only FR was hounded by Corbis and the photographer. Jane Fonda condemned those who’d try to “smear” Kerry with that original Corbis color photo as well.

All animals are equal. Some are more equal than others. FR never HOSTED any of the discussed photos. The images all resided on other servers whether they be Corbis’, AP’s, photobucket’s, etc. etc. Snopes HOSTS those illicit photos on their own servers. They made copies of the files and have them available for download display in their HTML from their servers and even as it has been shown disallow hotlinking to their hosting of the images.

So why is it “newsworthy” to have them on Snopes but not newsworthy for FR to also show them in a discussion of the content?


120 posted on 07/10/2008 6:19:04 AM PDT by weegee (Hi there!)
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