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Male kid lockups ordered to gender-bend clothes regulations (NY)
ny daily news ^ | 06.17.08 | KENNETH LOVETT

Posted on 06/20/2008 8:08:30 PM PDT by Coleus

The state has quietly ordered male-only juvenile detention centers to keep bras and panties in stock for transgendered delinquents - angering many jail staffers.   Each facility must stock a dozen bra and panties of each size in case it is requested, employees said and agency officials confirmed.  Girls' centers also must stock men's underwear.

Two longtime employees of the agency ripped the policy, saying they fear it promotes an alternative lifestyle in order to accommodate a miniscule population.   "People are appalled," one employee said. "The vast majority of kids in here don't fit the category and want nothing to do with this."   The second employee said it would have made more sense to phase the policy in rather than enact it all at once.  "I'm dealing with predominantly inner-city kids from gang neighborhoods; there's a lot of other battles and issues I need to deal with," he said.

The state Office of Children and Family Services order is part of a policy quietly enacted in response to a lawsuit.  In addition to keeping "gender neutral undergarments" in stock, facility staff must call transgendered youths by their chosen, rather than their legal, names.   Those boys who believe they are girls also must be called "she" by those at the facilities, while girls who believe they are boys must be called "he" under the policy.  Transgendered kids in the system can shower privately, shave body parts, use makeup and grow their hair long.

Some can request to be transferred to a facility in upstate Red Hook that has housed a number of transgendered kids, officials said.   A male who believes he is a female can also request transfer to a girl's juvenile center and vice versa. The request would be heard by a committee.   To date, there has just been one such request, but it didn't go through because the youth was sent to an adult jail.  "The policy is all about tolerance and respect," said spokesman Edward Borges.   The state runs 30 juvenile jails with a total of 1,212 kids. The number of transgendered is about 20.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: corrections; heshe; hesheit; homosexualagenda; jails; juveniles; queers; transgendered
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1 posted on 06/20/2008 8:08:31 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus
"The policy is all about tolerance and respect,"

No, it is about coercion of the vast majority.

2 posted on 06/20/2008 8:10:09 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Coleus

Requested by whom? The rapee or the rapist?


3 posted on 06/20/2008 8:10:24 PM PDT by Southerngl
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To: Coleus

A boy that believes he is a girl or vis versa is delusional and mentally ill. The need real psychiatric help, not underwear.


4 posted on 06/20/2008 8:12:03 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: Eagles6

The majority of them cannot be changed through psychiatry.


5 posted on 06/20/2008 8:13:49 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car.........with guns.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Have you ever met a shrink that wasn’t a little bonkers themselves?


6 posted on 06/20/2008 8:15:01 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: darkangel82

Actually, yes. Next question?
susie


7 posted on 06/20/2008 8:16:04 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Coleus
A male who believes he is a female can also request transfer to a girl's juvenile center and vice versa.

Great! I'm a male lesbian, you know. So lock me up with all the bad girls.

8 posted on 06/20/2008 8:19:10 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yo prometo lealtad a la bandera de los Estados Unidos de America, y a la Republica que representa...)
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To: Eagles6

One of the preeminent goals of psychiatrists is to make the Universe unisex. ;-)


9 posted on 06/20/2008 8:26:32 PM PDT by doc1019 (I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
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To: Coleus

They’re being locked up for a crime....little things like makeup and underwear can be forgotten about.


10 posted on 06/20/2008 8:28:51 PM PDT by Coffee200am
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To: doc1019
One of the preeminent goals of psychiatrists is to make the Universe unisex

Or to make the cosmos universally guilt-free sexed. No rules.

11 posted on 06/20/2008 8:35:02 PM PDT by lightman (Waiting for Godot and searching for Avignon)
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To: doc1019

You are correct, which is why I added “real”. This appears to be the only mental illness that can be “cured” by surgically removing a healthy body part via lopadicophomy.


12 posted on 06/20/2008 8:35:27 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: doc1019

My daughter just completed her first year at DePaul University in Chicago. The was telling me how an official survey for a class offered FOUR options for “gender”. Male, Female, Transgender and OTHER. Her response? “Other, like what “sheep”? That’s my girl.....


13 posted on 06/20/2008 8:39:10 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: Eagles6

Lopadicophomy … love your spelling! But I understand. ;-)


14 posted on 06/20/2008 8:48:35 PM PDT by doc1019 (I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
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To: Coleus

Bras are a foundation undergarment worn for a specific purpose. Boys don’t need bras. It’s ridiculous !


15 posted on 06/20/2008 8:49:24 PM PDT by nuconvert (Obama - Preferred by 4 out of 5 Dictators & Terrorists)
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To: Kozak

Hope she can retain her realism over the next three years. Prayers go out to her. ;-)


16 posted on 06/20/2008 8:51:03 PM PDT by doc1019 (I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
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To: nuconvert

You are correct, but I think they feel it gives them “support”...(support for being messed up).


17 posted on 06/20/2008 8:51:50 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Then they need intensive counselling. Not bras.


18 posted on 06/20/2008 8:56:00 PM PDT by nuconvert (Obama - Preferred by 4 out of 5 Dictators & Terrorists)
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To: doc1019

The other operation is an adadictomy. I think Rush may have mentioned that one.


19 posted on 06/20/2008 8:56:37 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: Responsibility2nd
>> A male who believes he is a female can also request transfer to a girl's juvenile center and vice versa.

> Great! I'm a male lesbian, you know. So lock me up with all the bad girls.

Sounds good to me too!

We just need to make sure the other posters on this thread don't get their wish first, such that the only way we can get into the girls' center is minus our original-issue privates.

20 posted on 06/20/2008 9:04:20 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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