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Rest In Peace, old friend, your work is finished.....

If you want ON or OFF the DIESEL ”KnOcK” LIST just FReepmail me.....

This is a fairly HIGH VOLUME ping list on some days.....

1 posted on 03/13/2008 12:19:43 PM PDT by Red Badger
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Biodiesel Bush KnOcK!!!!!!!.....................


2 posted on 03/13/2008 12:20:20 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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Biofuels are the most efficient way to starve the poor.

Let's get to it!

3 posted on 03/13/2008 12:21:05 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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Don’t tax people just for the opportunity to burn our food supply.


4 posted on 03/13/2008 12:23:01 PM PDT by SoDak (Anyone but Obama)
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I think he’s right...

But it’s going to be a long time before they actually can make it economical.

They need to focus on developing an algae strain that can produce the necessary lipids at low cost.


5 posted on 03/13/2008 12:25:39 PM PDT by Brilliant
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After so many miscues by Jorge, this one is really bad!

Bio fuels are not the answer! Bio fuels are a negative source of energy; it takes more energy to produce and distribute a gallon of it than it can possibly release!


7 posted on 03/13/2008 12:29:14 PM PDT by texson66 ("Tyranny is yielding to the lust of the governing." - Lord Moulton)
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Now that he’s driven up the price of everything related to corn, he’s going to drive up the price of everything related to vegetable oil with nothing positive to show for it.


12 posted on 03/13/2008 12:37:13 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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The word on the street is that my mercerdes Sprinter diesel warranty is void if it runs on biodiesel or a blend.


17 posted on 03/13/2008 12:42:47 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Never say never (there'll be a VP you'll like))
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We’ll get bio-diesel at $4 per gallon, and bread for $20 per loaf.

Coal and shale oil are the right answers, not bio-diesel.


22 posted on 03/13/2008 12:46:06 PM PDT by devere
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Renewable fuels. This is a blast from the hippy 70s. Renewable resources. Say no! to petrochemicals.


28 posted on 03/13/2008 12:53:32 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!

The DC elites, including President, down-to-earth-rancher next door Bush JUST DON'T GET IT.

Ethanol's use of corn and the rising price of gas is pricing vittles out of the reach of common folk, whom he and the libs profess to be so very much for.

How about kicking some teeth in and some butt out of the lobbying halls of Congress and getting on, triple time, with drilling in ANWR and building refineries.

Alternative fuel is an esteemable goal; meantime, the world turns on petroleum--let's get our supply and use it. After all, what are we saving it for? If alternative fuels are coming, let's use our oil supply to keep prices down until a good alternative arrives--ETHANOL AIN'T IT!

vaudine

29 posted on 03/13/2008 12:55:09 PM PDT by vaudine (RO)
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If I could get a 4cyl turbo-diesel for an engine swap, I'd be all over converting used cooking oil to biodiesel. In California, the Air Resources Board won't allow swapping diesels into vehicles that ran gas engines - as if there is such a huge market.

There is a company that intends to create some kind of organism that produces just such a product. No more oil imports at $110 barrel. (52 gallons)

30 posted on 03/13/2008 1:02:51 PM PDT by muleskinner
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...the energy balance of biodiesel is 3.24, compared to 1.25 for ethanol...

From this site

http://www.energyexperts.org/energy_solutions/res_details.cfm?resourceID=3020&keyword=biofuel%20energy&sector=All

This is a VERY high estimate in my opinion. Fuel from organics is a pipedream.

The only people that think that 3.24 is good are people who don’t understand what that would take us down from compared to oil.


31 posted on 03/13/2008 1:04:10 PM PDT by ScratInTheHat (Don't like my immigration stance? I'm dyslexic. PC keeps sounding like BS to me!)
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Maybe someone can answer this who is more knowledgeable than me on the matter but...Why can’t Bush simply sign an executive order allowing drilling in ANWR. Clinton signed many orders without the support of Congress (gays in military ect el) What is stopping the President for allowing this. He will have the full support of the American people with the exception of the small percentage of the radical environmentalists.


34 posted on 03/13/2008 1:12:37 PM PDT by Fast Ed97
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Until they find a way to effectively lower the pour-point and raise the cetane levels, biodeisel will never be a viable alternative. Besides, they use food to make it! Should use switchgrass, but that’s an argument for another day.


36 posted on 03/13/2008 1:14:23 PM PDT by RayBob (If guns kill people, can I blame misspelled words on my keyboard?)
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Can somebody who’s better educated help me out with this? I’ve been thinking that the emphasis (subsidies if you’re going to end up stuck with them) on biofuels should instead go into something like neutralizing radioactive nuclear waste. It would seem to me, if you could do something about stabilizing nuclear waste, nuclear power could support the electrical infrastructure. This would free up a lot oil for general transportation.

Putting aside the concerns with political correctness and enviro-protesters, is this sort of neutralization unthinkable or a bad idea?


46 posted on 03/13/2008 1:22:43 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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"Biodiesel is the most promising of these fuels. "Biodiesel refineries can produce fuel from soybeans... "By promoting bio-diesel as a substitute, we have missed the fact that it is worse than the fossil-fuel burning it replaces" Welcome to...The Most Destructive Crop on Earth
47 posted on 03/13/2008 1:24:00 PM PDT by anglian
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I applaud the pioneering of domestic renewable energy. In fact, it appears that strides are also being made with respect to trash-based ethanol as opposed to corn-based ethanol.
Trash-based ethanol

57 posted on 03/13/2008 1:41:59 PM PDT by Amendment10
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Agree. Biodiesel is better than ethanol; can be made from more things.


58 posted on 03/13/2008 1:42:50 PM PDT by mysterio
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I wonder how long it will be before we commit to using "beef based" fuel?

I heard you get about 50,000 miles per cow!

You also get about 72,000 miles per fuzzy kitten or puppy but of course using them for a fuel source is unacceptable because they aren't used for food or nutrition (at least not in America).

All kidding aside, I find it disturbing that food based fuels are gaining mega support without researching the global repercussions. Is it really more important to feed the fuel tank instead of the hungry citizenry with our food resources.

Maybe we should commit a zillion dollars to find a way to convert petroleum to food.

77 posted on 03/13/2008 4:12:53 PM PDT by R_Kangel (`.`)
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Wait! Peanuts can do it. Grow peanuts!


80 posted on 03/13/2008 4:24:28 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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