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McCain: "I am a proud conservative liberal Republican." (VIDEO)
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Posted on 02/29/2008 8:31:26 PM PST by MeanGreen2008

"I am a proud conservative liberal Republican."

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KEYWORDS: 2008; agaffemoveon; backstabbers; betrayed; deafrino; deathofthegop; fundedbysoros; gaffe; mccainfeingold; mccainkennedy; mccainkerry; mccainlieberman; mccainsoros; mccaint; mccainunfit; mccrazy; mcinsane; mcsoros; mctraitor; mctreason; nowaymccain; oops; rinomccain; shadowparty
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To: Blogger
Good grief! How did we end up in this mess?

Oh, ask me a hard one next time, eh? :)

We got in this mess by consistently buying the koolade -- and "voting for the lesser of two evils."

Well, when you move "just a little" to the left/evil each time around, you eventually get all the way there. It takes a bit longer, but, they're patient -- and now their patience has paid off.

We got here by being naive. By being trusting of liars -- by believing the lies. We got here by being fools. Welcome to The Stupid Party.

Some choice, eh? In one corner, The Stupid Party. In the other corner, The Evil Party. And, thanks to the continued effort of reptilian politicos on both sides, the stupidos are as evil as the evils who are as stupid as the stupidos.

Six of one, a half dozen of the other.

141 posted on 03/13/2008 11:12:05 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: smoothsailing
Would you vote for Hubert H. Humphrey, if he ran as a Republican? How about if he ran as a Democrat?

I would -- if he ran as either.

Although he was "The Liberal's Liberal" in his day, today, he'd be run out of the GOP on a rail, for being an unelectably radical-right-wing gun nut.

THAT, my friends, is exactly how far "the middle" has moved to the left over the past few decades.

Today's "right" is far to the left of yesterday's "liberal" politics.

Time for a reality check...

142 posted on 03/13/2008 11:15:42 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Man50D

Pingarino to my previous few posts.


143 posted on 03/13/2008 11:19:46 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: PA-RIVER
My bet ... he nukes 2 countries before hes “impeached”.
They drag him out of the Whitehouse kicking and screaming late 2009. Just watching him talk gives me the creeps. He is dumber than a door knob.

Yeah, but he makes up for it by being crazier than a shithouse rat.

In politics, it's all a balancing act.

144 posted on 03/13/2008 11:23:01 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: RussP; Defiant
he does have a lifetime ACU conservative rating of 82%

There you go again, coughing up that miserable hairball of a statistic (and I use the "s"-word as a curse-word; you know, "lies, damned lies, and statistics")

How come I am always seeing the cain-bots spewing the "lifetime" rating, rather than the more MEANINGFUL recent rating?

Frankly, it's as laughable as hearing a public defender mouthing, "your honor I ask the court to acquit my client because this is his first offence; he has led an exemplary life and been a pillar of this community." (prior, of course, to having murdered his entire family in cold blood -- but hey, everyone's entitled to a mistake or two, right? The main thing is his "lifetime" of public service, right? LMAO!)

Hey, just between you and me -- I cain't help but ask -- are you paid to post?

145 posted on 03/13/2008 11:38:47 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: RussP; RTO
If you think McCain is bad for the Constitution, just wait and see what Osamabama will do. He is what you want, so don’t complain if you get him.

Unfortunately, rational voters like me will have to live with the consequences of your emotionally based irrationality.

Free advice: Why don't you cain-bots pass a memo up the ratline, and suggest that Campaign Central stop suggesting that they drop the "bash the hell out of those who aren't convinced to vote for our guy" agenda?

I'd think a simple inclusion in the next day's Talking Points mailout ought to do the trick.

Or, maybe not. Given the venom-level, I'm beginning to think that with at least some of the operatives, it's personal -- they like antagonizing those who aren't convinced to vote for McCrazy. So, perhaps they ought to include it in a whole week's Talking Points -- scrawled in big angry crayon letters, so that they'll know it came straight from the top.

Good grief, this would be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic. What next? "Vote for our guy or we'll break your legs?"

146 posted on 03/13/2008 11:44:14 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Don Joe

Hey, joker, I also posted his ACU rating for the past year. I suggest you get a clue before you advertise your ignorance. It was 65%. That’s not as good as I’d personally like to see, but it’s about 60% better than Osamabama — who you’ll probably end up with if McCain loses.

As for “cain-bots,” you couldn’t be more wrong. McCain was essentially my last choice among Republicans. But I am wise enough to know that he is far better than either of the two top Dems. Apparently that’s more than I can say for you.


147 posted on 03/13/2008 11:52:05 PM PDT by RussP
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To: RussP; RTO
I agree, by the way, that the McCain-Feingold law was an assault on free speech. But fortunately we have a supreme court to stop such laws.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

First, McCrazy pushes that abortion through the legislature, and then George "The Buck Passes Here" Bush, acknowledging that it's unconstitutional, signs it anyway, saying the courts will turn it over.

Then, it gets to the Supreme Court -- and they DON'T overturn it.

Shazam, we're stuck with that POS -- and you have the [_____] [insert epithet of choice] to scold us with tripe like "fortunately we have a supreme court to stop such laws"???

Whoever is writing the McCrank Talking Points is nuts!

148 posted on 03/14/2008 12:01:16 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: RussP; Man50D
Think about it this way. Conservatives could not even prevail in the Republican Party (this time around), so how in the world are they going to prevail against both the Democrats *and* Republicans?

In other words, the battered-wife should go back home to "The Mister," because otherwise she'd have no husband at all!

149 posted on 03/14/2008 12:17:08 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: MeanGreen2008

This thread should be titled IMPLODE or cannibals paradise


150 posted on 03/14/2008 12:18:41 AM PDT by Tempest (I'm a Christian. Before I am a conservative.)
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To: Defiant
Too bad the GOP didn't disintegrate over socialism this year the way the Whigs did over slavery. People in the 1850s had more principle and better understanding of the stakes. They knew that there was no more time to wait to decide the slavery issue. If it got extended to the territories, the south would retain its political power and slavery would never die. We'd still have it today.

Ah, but we DO still have it today.

OK, they're not black -- they're tan; and they're not from Africa, they're from Mexico.

And, they aren't "legally" owned, but that's a distinction without a difference.

The "unique institution" has been refined. Both sides have worked out the perfect compromise. All by the magic of Motor-Voter! The Stupid Party gets to have the slave labor, and The Evil Party gets to have the slave vote. It's a win-win situation.

In fact, it's a win-win-win situation, since even the slaves think they come out on top. As the old saying goes, the perfect slave thinks he's free. And today's slaves, though they be slaves (in all but name), don't realize that they're owned by the plantation.

They may move from one plantation to the next, but that's no loss to the slaveholders. It's a benefit!

151 posted on 03/14/2008 3:46:17 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: RussP; Defiant
You must be smoking some pretty strong stuff if you think Osamabama will win in a landslide. In fact, I think he could *lose* in a landslide once the public learns more about him. But it will be less of a landslide than it could be if RINO deserters like you sit in the corner and pout.

Um, that smoke you see must be coming from your own exhalation, Mr. Cainer. How you could rationally accuse him of being a Republican in Name Only -- when he just finished informing you that he's not a Republican! -- is beyond rational comprehension.

I read it -- and then I read it again. Then, I asked myself if I really read it, so, I read it yet again! And, sho' 'nuff, You Really Did Say It! Gad-Freaking-ZOOKS!

But then, I came to my senses. I realized there was in fact a logical explanation for your having bleated out the "RINO deserters like you" personal attack, even though it was in response to having been informed that he's NOT a republican, he's a conservative.

Yes, I caught myself. I remembered that you're a Cainbot, and, that Cainbots tend to run off scripts and Talking Points memos.

So, relax, I don't think you're crazy. Misguided? Perhaps. Or, maybe just making a buck. (A guy's got to pay for the Spaghetti-O's after all.) But, I seriously doubt that you're nuts, now that I've realized that there is an alternate explanation for otherwise-pathological ravings.

152 posted on 03/14/2008 4:03:35 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Man50D
I see you're employing the John McCain tactic of appealing to Conservatives with innuendo and derogatory remarks. Very clever.

I've noticed that all the McCrank operatives seem to be working off the same talking points, with Rule One being "bash those who oppose him, be TOUGH, show them who's boss" -- I recall one of 'em (I forget which, they're all nearly carbon copies, hence my suspicion they're working off the same talking points" going so far as to declare that "Mac" (the new name for der leader) "doesn't need your votes" -- well, he'd better not need 'em, because the "piss in their face" act is wearing real thin, real fast.

Maybe that kind of crap plays well in Tehran -- the "you have to know how and when to beat your wife" flapdoodle -- the idea that if you apply proper amount of roundhouse punch to the jaw, they'll come around and go "yes, master, I will obey" -- but I must admit that I am dismayed that someone with THAT kind of pathological mentality is being seriously considered for the highest office in the land.

The man is insane, and he apparently thinks he can run the country as if it were a military division -- "old school", where those who do not immediately bark out SIR YES SIR are beaten into humiliated defeat, at which point their obedience will be obtained -- or, they'll simply be beaten, period, and thus pose no further trouble to the regime.

Good f'n grief. The Ghost of Josef Stalin is alive -- and it's walking around in a cartoonish caricature of an old Bogart role!

Perhaps the MOST disgusting part of all is that the other members of his party -- those who have been berated, insulted, threatened, whatever -- the various "cloakroom meltdowns" when the idjit went apeshit on them -- have suddenly fallen into the memory hole, as they line up in support of the man they clearly detest.

Party Loyalty over all? [spit] In the Soviet Union, perhaps. But that crap won't fly in MY country. At least, I don't expect it to fly very far. Won't take long before all his mental eruptions are front page news. By "long", I mean something along the lines of "days to general election minus two or three" -- in other words, about the same length of time prior to the election that it was that Bush's quashed drunk driving records were blasted to the front pages.

I expect they'll give him plenty of rope with which to hang himself -- and, I expect the cocky little bastard will take it, gladly. They'll run out the line and let that fish go clean out to the middle of the lake -- and then they'll set the hook.

No way will they roll out the big guns early in the general election campaign season. They'll wait until right before the election, capitalizing on the collective ten second attention span. If they start playing the Crazy Card too soon, people will forget, and, McCrank might be able to hold it in, and pretend to be sane.

Basic strategy would dictate that the best time to hit him with that stuff would be right before the election, because 1) The voters won't have time to forget, 2) There wwon't be time to cook up a defense, and, 3) McCrazy will likely, due to the stress of it all, to totally bonkers, proving that the stuff is indeed valid.

153 posted on 03/14/2008 6:36:25 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: RussP; Defiant
Oh, and who nominated you the arbiter of who is and is not a Republican?

Oh, God, this is TOO rich!

Whoever is writing your material should either not quit is day job -- if he's trying to be taken seriously -- or, apply to Worldwide Pants to see if they're looking for a way over the top joke writer.

For YOU, of all people, to scold anyone for being a self-appointed "the arbiter of who is and is not a Republican"... oh, my achin' sides! LMAO!

154 posted on 03/14/2008 7:02:19 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Don Joe

“Um, that smoke you see must be coming from your own exhalation, Mr. Cainer. How you could rationally accuse him of being a Republican in Name Only — when he just finished informing you that he’s not a Republican! — is beyond rational comprehension.”

I see that I’m dealing with a real genius here. Earth to genius: McCain won the *Republican* primary? Which primary did he win? The *Republican* primary. Repeat after me, genius: McCain won the big R primary. So apparently *Republicans* think he is a Republican. It’s only the kooks like you here on FR who think they decide who is and is not a Republican.

I’m going to try my best to avoid wasting any more time with you, but let me just give you the reality of the situation. The choice now is not between McCain and Fred Thompson. It is not between McCain and Romney. It is not between McCain and Reagan. The choice we face now, like it or not, is between McCain and Osamabama or Hillary.

If you decide to sit it out, what you are essentially saying is that you don’t care if we win the war in Iraq or the war on terrorism in general. That’s reality, like it or not.

I swear people like you are as irrational as a scorned woman.


155 posted on 03/14/2008 8:34:30 AM PDT by RussP
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To: Don Joe

Good points. Better late to the thread than never.


156 posted on 03/14/2008 8:45:31 AM PDT by Defiant (Hillary as Veep would be Obama's impeachment insurance. Or his death sentence.)
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To: RussP; RTO; Defiant; PA-RIVER; Man50D
Hey, joker,

Ah, still got the "bash 'em, smash 'em, make 'em cry and then they'll vote" Talking Points strategy paper, eh? LOL!

BTW, that's MISTER Joker to you, botsie.

I also posted his ACU rating for the past year. I suggest you get a clue before you advertise your ignorance. It was 65%.

*Yawn*... Of course, you hammered away with the Talking Point "lifetime ACU rating is 82% conservative" L/DL/S.

The Big Lie... repeat it often enough, and eventually it WILL be accepted as true.

Is that on the Talking Points too? Or do they just refer you to the traditional handbook for that proven-effective strategy?

But I am wise enough to know that he is far better than either of the two top Dems. Apparently that’s more than I can say for you.

Wrong, botaroma!

I agree that he's "better than" (code for "less evil than") the other two.

I also agree that arsenic is "better than" (i.e., "less evil than") strychnine. That doen't mean I'll be drinking any of it, though.

With sufficiently precise metrics, it's possible to tell the difference in atomic weight between two near-identical isotopes. That doesn't mean that a wise man will shout from the rooftops how dramatically different they are.

Yeah, your boyo ain't "as bad as" the other two. He's WAY over the "too bad to swallow" mark, though. I guess in YOUR world there aren't "absolutes" -- it's all relative. As long as one poison is even infinitesimally less toxic than the other, we're required to ingest it, since, hey, it's not AS bad.

And you call that "wise," LOL!

It's your kind of compromise, compromise, compromise that has gotten us to this point. Like a boa constrictor, which doesn't "crush" its prey, but merely takes up the slack each time the prey exhales, your brand of compromise, compromise, compromise has finally succeeded in getting us to the "no more air" point. Nice work, I hope you're proud of yourself, munchkin.

The left says "I've got a deal for you! You just give up a little bit -- each time. Just move a little to the left. To help you out with your suckers constituents, we'll call it 'compromise' -- 'moving to the middle.' That's all we ask -- just a wee l'il bit of 'compromise' each election cycle. To show you how reasonable we are, we'll accept your compromises! All you need to do is to get a little bit closer to our position each time around. Oh, and about the way WE keep moving more to the left? No problem. You just keep on compromisin' that's all we ask. Make us happy. Be 'bipartisan', you maverick, you!"

You have yourself a day, son.

157 posted on 03/14/2008 10:17:38 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: RussP
It’s only the kooks like you here on FR who think they decide who is and is not a Republican.

Oh, Wad Some Pow’r The Giftee Gie Us, To See Oursels As Others See Us!

LMAO!

It's YOU, my "wise" friend, who sits on his haunches launching staccato personal attacks, damning your targets for Failure To Be Acceptably Republican -- by YOUR standards.

You see that smudgy inkspot in the dictionary next to the word "hypocrite"? Look close -- it's YOU! *chuckle*

I see that I’m dealing with a real genius here.

Yes, you are. How nice of you to recognize it. I will confess that my I.Q. is not at the happy end of the genius bell curve, but, it is well within the acknowledged range. I don't make a practice of going around boasting of it, but when someone else brings it up, I'm not going to deny it. False humility is as big a pantload as... as... as your candidate.

Earth to genius: McCain won the *Republican* primary? Which primary did he win? The *Republican* primary. Repeat after me, genius: McCain won the big R primary. So apparently *Republicans* think he is a Republican.

And this has exactly WHAT to do with the fact that he is a liberal?

And this has exactly WHAT to do with the fact that we (your targets) are conservatives, NOT republicans?

And this has exactly WHAT to do with the fact that FreeRepublic is a CONSERVATIVE forum, not a REPUBLICAN forum?

Oh, that's right -- it has NOTHING to do with those FACTS. You're just a bare-knuckle McCainiac, bashing in faces for "Mac" -- who, after all, doesn't need our votes -- which is why your're gonna attack us, insult us, berate us, scold us, TRY to humiliate us (LOL!), and, in general level every form of personal attack found in the McCrank Talking Points (it must be a Talking Points campaign -- the odds of that many "independent" bots ALL spouting the same BS at the same time, in "n-part" harmony... is beyond credulity (as "coincidence").

Aw, hell -- keep it up. There's nothing like the impression of "that lunatic's followers being a bunch of deranged bar-room brawler types" to seal his electoral fate.

He was a pathetic schmuck in his Academy days, barely scraped through at the bottom of his class, spent his time in Hanoi getting "better than the average POW" treatment by VOLUNTEERING military secrets in order to obtain better treatment, and then, when he returned, made it clear what he was, by sucking up to his former captors, and, ABANDONING the POW/MIAs who were left behind.

Yeah, that's one fine piece of work to which you've hitched your wagon.

Oh, and did I mention the Keating Five? And all the McCrank/RAT abominations he rammed through? His strongarm tactics AGAINST conservative Republicans?

The smug little prick is contemptuous of my kind -- CONSERVATIVES -- and he revells in rubbing our noses in it.

Well, be that as it may. I am not one to reward that sort of emotionally crippled, mentally incompetant scumbag with my VOTE.

Nor am I one to reward his Manchurian handlers with it either, through his proxy candidacy.

Did I ask you before if you are "paid to post"? If so, please answer it. If not, well, consider it asked.

Thanks, and all that.

PS:

It’s only the kooks like you here on FR who think they decide who is and is not a Republican.

Well golly, I guess that would make YOU "a kook like [me]" -- except for the fact that you're lying, since it's YOU -- not me -- who stalks about, declaring who is acceptably republican.

The only thing I am concerned with is a candidate's conservatism. And since McCrazy is at best an enemy of conservatism, I'm not particularly concerned with him at all (that is, as a candidate).

158 posted on 03/14/2008 10:38:31 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Defiant
Good points. Better late to the thread than never.

Thanks.

Boy, it's a real stinkfest, ain't it. I think that if McQueeg had gone just a weeeee bit further in his First Amendment Neutraliztion Act, we'd have a much friendlier time here. I mean, if the botz were prohibited the use of stuff like fax and email transmission of Talking Points scripts, they'd be lost, they'd be quiet, and the rest of us would be able to stroll down the virtual avenue without constantly needing to stop to pry angry snarling yip-yip pit-yorkie teeth out of our ankles. :)

159 posted on 03/14/2008 10:42:21 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: RussP
This needs correcting:

If you decide to sit it out, what you are essentially saying is that you don’t care if we win the war in Iraq or the war on terrorism in general. That’s reality, like it or not.

That's perhaps the MOST wrong-headed line of crap you've spewed all day.

There will be NO "winning" of ANY "war" so long as we have widee open borders and an amnesty-minded government!

The MOST we can hope for is a chillingly Orwellian "permanent war" condition, with our freedoms constantly eroded, with the Constitution constantly whittled into irrelevancy, and with the statist superstructure increasingly consolidating its grasp on the populace.

I have nothing but contempt for anyone who would CHOOSE to endorse that program -- and voting for McCrazy is if nothing else, a tacit endorsement of exactly that.

One of your co-bots (I forget which -- y'all look alike to me) said (repeatedly) that anyone NOT voting for McLunatic would be voting to "abandon the troops" in Iraq.

Well, pardon me, but what kind of IDIOT do you people think you're pulling one over on? If McCrazy's opponents win, the troops will come HOME. Abandoned in Iraq? LMAO!

160 posted on 03/14/2008 10:51:09 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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