McCain: "I am a proud conservative liberal Republican." (VIDEO)

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[MeanGreen2008]

"I am a proud conservative liberal Republican."

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4363279

[Republican Wildcat]

That’s a different argument all together...nothing like a long-winded response to something that wasn’t said.

[matthew fuller]

I agree that the terrorists are paying attention to our elections.

I do feel like McCain will give the enemy the most active fight, at lease I don't think he will cut and run. He was definitely not my choice, but I see him as the best of our remaining choices, as far as the "war on terror". All other areas he sucks.

[matthew fuller]

"Then the SHeep will vote for Baraq Husayn ibn Mahomet "

I believe that if an attack occurs, McCain will win in a landslide.

[RussP]

“Trust me I have thought about it for a long time. Conservatives would prevail because they would be separating themselves from the increasingly Socialist GOP.”

So let me get this straight. Conservatives can’t even prevail within the Republican Party, yet they will prevail as their own party?

Sorry, but that’s utter nonsense. Yes, a splinter conservative party would nominate a conservative candidate, but that candidate would have no chance of winning. Worse yet, the more successful he was, the more he would actually harm the conservative cause — because he would ensure the election of the Democrat.

The real solution is to work within the Republican Party and try to get a conservative nominated next time. If that can’t be done, then conservatism is dead for now. Sorry, but that’s just reality.

[RussP]

“The real solution is to work within the Republican Party and try to get a conservative nominated next time. If that can’t be done, then conservatism is dead for now. Sorry, but that’s just reality.”

Let me just clarify that a bit. Conservatism isn’t really “dead” even with McCain. Yes, McCain has done some very stupid things, but his lifetime ACU rating is 82% conservative. No, that’s not the whole story, but it is certainly significant. What would you guess Osamabama’s ACU rating is?

[Defiant]

Umm, you apparently missed the point of comparing the Republicans in 2008 with the Whigs of the 1850s.

[Republican Wildcat]

There’s no comparison - and that’s a different context than what we started, now wasn’t it? Nice try.

[Man50D]

So let me get this straight. Conservatives can’t even prevail within the Republican Party, yet they will prevail as their own party?

Your illogic is far from straight. The GOP is a party of Socialists. It would make no more sense for Conservatives to associate themselves with the GOP than it would for Conservatives to associate with the Socialist Democrats.

Yes, a splinter conservative party would nominate a conservative candidate, but that candidate would have no chance of winning.

This very type of mentality perfectly illustrates all that is and has been wrong with the GOP. The sacrifice principles at all costs for the sake of winning an election is a loser strategy as it will only get you the type of candidate that will further the Socialist cause. You don't win by helping the enemy. The 2006 elections is a perfect example.

The real solution is to work within the Republican Party and try to get a conservative nominated next time. If that can’t be done, then conservatism is dead for now. Sorry, but that’s just reality.

This same tired old refrain that has been used as an excuse in the past and the result is incremental Socialism in the GOP. The solution is to realize Socialists represent the GOP. You should be sorry for not dealing with the reality your compromising tactic only helps the Socialist cause.

[RussP]

“This same tired old refrain that has been used as an excuse in the past and the result is incremental Socialism in the GOP. The solution is to realize Socialists represent the GOP. You should be sorry for not dealing with the reality your compromising tactic only helps the Socialist cause.”

So you don’t want “incremental socialism,” but your idiotic idea for a new splinter conservative party would give us more than “incremental” socialism. It would give us hard-core socialism.

As I wrote earlier, McCain is a seriously flawed candidate, but his lifetime ACU rating is 82% conservative. You would throw away 82% of a loaf for no loaf at all — just because it would satisfy your irrational emotions. As for me, I prefer to vote on the basis of thinking rather than emotions.

[savedbygrace]

I strongly oppose McCain’s candidacy, but I understand how that flub could happen. He wanted to say that he is a conservative Republican but his opponents are both liberal. His mouth was trying to kepp up with his brain, and he combined the two phrases. No big deal.

I think the larger flub is “Now, it’ll be a dispirited campaign . . . “

[Farmer Dean]

McCain would probably like to just cut to the chase and repeal the First Amendment.He seems to get pretty livid whenever a critic speaks up,that’s one sure way to shut them up.

[Farmer Dean]

I don’t rate Omama’s chances very high in the southern states.How many white southern Democrats are really going to pull the lever for him?

[Man50D]

So you don’t want “incremental socialism,” but your idiotic idea for a new splinter conservative party would give us more than “incremental” socialism. It would give us hard-core socialism.

You don't realize the GOP has "splintered" from Conservatism because it has been heading towards hardcore Socialism for many years by appeasing the Socialists. You are the proverbial frog in a pot of water not realizing you are being cooked in the Socialist stew until it is too late.

As I wrote earlier, McCain is a seriously flawed candidate, but his lifetime ACU rating is 82% conservative.

Saying he is seriously flawed is an understatement. Anyone or group of people can create some arbitrary parameters and use them to rate candidates. That doesn't make it a fact but since you are using the ACU rating as gospel then you should at least give all the facts with respect to McCain's ACU rating. From the American Thinker:

"First, a rating of 82.3 is not really that high. It puts Senator McCain in 39th place among senators serving in 2006, the latest year for which the ACU has its ratings posted online. For that most recent year in particular, McCain scored only 65, putting him in 47th place for that year. Ben Nelson (D-NE) and Chuck Hagel (R-NE), for example, scored 64 and 75, respectively, in 2006. Generally, McCain has voted less conservatively in more recent years. His average for 1990-97 was 88, but was only 74 for 1998-2006. Below are his yearly ratings since 1990.

The ACU also doesn't factor in McCain is strongly supported by flaming Socialist Joe Lieberman who has a life time ACU rating of 16.8%. Having done so would lower McCain's rating considerably.

You would throw away 82% of a loaf for no loaf at all — just because it would satisfy your irrational emotions. As for me, I prefer to vote on the basis of thinking rather than emotions.

That loaf has been stale and filled with Socialist mold for a long time. I doesn't require any thought to vote for someone simply because of an "R" after that person's name.

[RussP]

Hey, you forgot to inform us about Osamabama’s ACU rating!

I suggest you check into that little stat, because he is the guy irrational RINOs like you are determined to stick us with.

[Blogger]

I wouldn’t underestimate his appeal. Plus, he has the media 100% in his camp.

[Theodore R.]

All who believe in “democracy” will pull the lever for the “democratic” choice.

[Farmer Dean]

A large group of people think he’s the Messiah or something.Well he’s really the product of corrupt Chicago politics.Hopefully folks will start to wise up,but the willfully ignorant are a lost cause.

[IIntense]

Davis won the 2002 election for CA governor through default, IMO. In 2008, I think conservatives who vote for McCain will only do so because they have no other practical choice.

If we had to pass an intelligence test based on knowledge of history, current domestic and world affairs, and economics, in order to be qualified to vote, I wonder what changes we'd see in the outcomes.

[Man50D]

I suggest you check into that little stat, because he is the guy irrational RINOs like you are determined to stick us with.

I see you're employing the John McCain tactic of appealing to Conservatives with innuendo and derogatory remarks. Very clever.

[Defiant]

That "Republican" is part of your handle for a reason, I guess. Partisan to the bitter end. I am a conservative first, and my entire life, that has meant working within the Republican party. I have worked in the Senate and House, in legislative roles, for Republicans. I do not believe that the Republican party is the party for the advancement of conservatism any more. I am not sure whether it can be retaken by conservatives, the way Ronald Reagan took it from the Rockefellers and Fords, or whether it is rigged to prevent that from happening. Right now, I am leaning towards the latter. If so, conservatives will need to find a new vehicle for the advancement of conservatism.

Republican die-hards such as yourself will see a landslide this November that will be of McGovern proportions. Then maybe you'll figure it out. But I doubt it.