Posted on 01/31/2008 2:09:25 PM PST by Jim Robinson
My friends, I have to admit that I've been in a bit of a quandary since the Real Conservatives ® Thompson and Hunter dropped out of the race leaving us to to place our bets on one the four headless horsemen. But after having a day or three to sort it all out, I'm beginning to see a ray of hope.
Number one, my worst fear that the pro-abortion, pro-gay, anti-gun social liberal Rudy Giuliani might be nominated, and thereby bring an abrupt and unholy end to the pro-life conservative movement within the GOP has been allayed. His evil culture of death platform has been soundly rejected by the Republican voters. Thank God! If nothing else is gained, that alone is a huge victory for us!
And that leaves us with the unwelcome slippery task of having to determine and select the least evil of the three remaining RINOs. But wait! When choosing between evils, why not choose the good?
McCain is insane and there are many good reasons not to choose him, but I'll list just five: McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Lieberman, the Keating 5, and the Gang of 14. No thanks. McCain is out!
Romney ran on a pro-abortion platform, is pro gay rights, is prone to BIG government solutions, promises anything to anyone for a vote, and flip-flops on important issues. Can't trust him.
Now Governor Huckabee. Could this be the good vs evil? He's a Baptist minister. A genuine 100% pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, Southron Christian social conservative!
And that would be my reason no. 1 to support Huckabee. He has the trust and backing of the Christian evangelicals and the support of the Bible Belt. You cannot win the presidency without the South, and I believe the pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-America Mike Huckabee is the most likely of the three GOP hopefuls to carry the South. And that's a pretty darn good reason!
My number two reason is that he is NOT McCain (and that's a pretty darn good reason too).
Number three (and this will be a tough one for a lot of my FReeper Friends) is that he is NOT Romney.
Numbers four and five are he's NOT Hillary and NOT Obama. Oohrah!
Number six, he plays a mean bass and he's a traditional favorite at Free Republic's infamous quadrennial Inaugural Balls in Washington, DC. Perhaps we could persuade President Huckabee to drop by our ball and perform his rocking rendition of "Sweet Home Alabama!" Now, wouldn't that be a hoot!
Number seven, if we can keep Huckabee in the race all the way through, thus preventing McCain or Romney from gaining enough delegates to win the nomination, then maybe, just maybe a deadlocked convention might seek out another candidate. One who can re-unite the Reagan Coalition, save the GOP, and put us back on the conservative track. Of course, my personal favorite to be that man would be FRed Thompson.
Woo hoo!!
Let it ring out through grassroots America and on to the convention! Support life! Support the GOP! Support Huckabee! And re-draft FRed Thompson!!
Never give in, never give up, and never lose hope.
Long live the Reagan Revolution!
If Huckabee gets knocked out or quits early, then it’s very likely that his delegates could go to McCain and he becomes the nominee with no challenge at the convention. It’s beginning to appear that, short of a miracle, McCain is going to win this thing hands down anyway. I can’t see Huckabee’s Christian pro-life evangelical supporters suddenly jumping ship to Romney with his pro-abort record, so Huckabee can probably stay in the race all the way through, even on a shoestring budget. If he wants to. And if not, who knows how his supporters will split. Chances are most will not go to Romney. McCain is in like Flynn unless we have a brokered convention. Even then, he could still get it. There’s only a slim chance that someone else would be drafted. It’d have to be one heck of a knock ‘em down drag ‘em out fight.
Look, this thread was done kind of tongue-in-cheek and I’m not really asking anyone to vote for Huckabee or even support him for his sake, or vote for anyone else for that matter. I no longer have a dog in this race other than I’m hoping our eventual RINO nominee is at least pro-life and is one who can carry all the Red states, including the bible belt. We’re going to need them. I just think the possibility of a brokered convention where there could be a possibility of pulling in a well-rounded reliable conservative is an interesting development and is worth the discussion.
No need to, I know how he governed, I don’t need to guess how he counseled. The stance of the LDS church against abortion is pretty clear. If Mitt had ever counseled someone to get an abortion outside of church policy, he would likely have been removed from leadership.
Like lemmings heading to the cliff....
Did you even read the post you're responding to? At no time did Jim Robinson ever claim "being a preacher" was the "main" criteria in selecting a President. He mentioned that Huckabee is a southern baptist preacher, but he didn't list this as THE "reason" to vote for him in ANY of his seven bullet points. The closest he came was the first argument that Huckabee "has the trust and backing of the Christian evangelicals and the support of the Bible Belt". While that is certainly true of Huck, it's not true of Je$$ Jack$on. Jack$on will never win over Christian evagelicals in the bible belt. Instead, Jackson has the support of liberal urban black "churches" like Obama's where the only thing they worship is liberalism and victim-hood for blacks.
So, if it’s true that McCain is the likely winner if Huckabee drops out early, best hope Huckabee doesn’t drop. Sounds like a plan to me.
“The stance of the LDS church against abortion is pretty clear.”
Not according to Stake President and member of one of the most powerful Mormon families ever, Mitt Romney. In this video the church leader contradicts you on LDS and abortion, and probably the Missouri doctrine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaIxdx03Eew&mode=related&search
Hahahaha, nice try. Thanks for posting that video, it should be seen by every one here doubting Mitt.
Thanks.
Jim, this is going to be a 48 state landslide victory for any cardboard cutout slick orator the Socialist left throws out.
To paraphrase Bob Dole...”you know it, I know it, the American people know it.”
McCain thinks he was tortured in Vietnam. Wait till the MSM gets their hands on him.
Why would any of the clueless voters/neighbors/coworkers WE all know vote for a stiff old quasi socialist when they can vote for a young one who is the real deal and is eloquent like Barack Osama?
The only thing I can think of is “experience”. Can’t sell that short. Grey hair vs slick talk? Either way, a liberal will be POTUS.
“The stance of the LDS church against abortion is pretty clear. If Mitt had ever counseled someone to get an abortion outside of church policy, he would likely have been removed from leadership.”
Romney very specifically says that you are wrong in the video, so which of you are telling the truth?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaIxdx03Eew&mode=related&search
Hey Billy, I thought you were only here on weekends.
Wow....you sure showed a pair partner.
I’m ambivalent about Huckabee but I have found myself arguing pretty much nonstop with folks here who seem to hate him because of how he talks and where he’s from and for the very reason you support him.....that he is unabashed Christian social conservative.
It takes stones to buck such a loud contingent in your own forum.
I salute you.
I’d don’t like McCain either and would prefer Romeny over McCain in a second.
We shall see.
I am amazed.
Here's why we can't accept Huckabee's type of Christianity. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saeKs63dxNo
Here's the full text of the video:
keeparkansaslegal.blogspot.com/2007
Abortion
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believes in the sanctity of human life. Therefore, the Church opposes elective abortion for personal or social convenience, and counsels its members not to submit to, perform, encourage, pay for, or arrange for such abortions.
The Church allows for possible exceptions for its members when:
• Pregnancy results from rape or incest, or
• A competent physician determines that the life or health of the mother is in serious jeopardy, or
• A competent physician determines that the fetus has severe defects that will not allow the baby to survive beyond birth.
The Church teaches its members that even these rare exceptions do not justify abortion automatically. Abortion is a most serious matter and should be considered only after the persons involved have consulted with their local church leaders and feel through personal prayer that their decision is correct.
I did not know that.
What will be the two states?
Mississippi and Utah?
(just got now found this link)
Thanks. Yeah, I’m familiar with that one.
Hey, DWar, who I don't have much at all post contact with here at FReeperville, did an elaborate comparison of McCain vs. Romney earlier this week at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1960746/posts [see post #31 of that thread].
Now DWar assigned each candidate 0, 2, 5, 8 or 10 points re: 11 separate issues under security & defense; another 11 another fiscal; another dozen under "social values"; and then 4 sub-topics under "personal qualities."
Of his 38 comparisons, I immediately took issue with 3 just on a first-glance basis & told DWar that...but he said he took 3 weeks researching it...and when you add up his totals he was way pro-Romney...Romney came out on top over McCain 103-50 on security; 106-68 on fiscal; 97-69 on social values; and 33-31 on the other.
My point I'm getting to? Here, DWar's heavily slanted Romney eval (339 for Romney; 217 for McCain) still had the pair in a dead 5-5 tie on pro-life issues.
IOW, even objective folks who heavily research the issues & heavily side with Romney concede there's really no difference on the two pro-life wise.
Here, Huckabee's "points" on pro-life issues would swallow up both Romney & McCain together, and so it's quite ironic you accuse me of "destroy[ing]...our pro life message." Seven, to first have a pro-life message, ya gotta have a pro-life messenger, and when you look at Romney's comments on post #598 & #623...the GOP has no such messenger in Romney (or McCain for that matter...when push comes to shove, McCain would probably do the right thing...but as Rick Santorum has said, McCain is no leader on pro-life or any social issue)!
You are ignoring the tape, the host drills him on this subject, posting the church doctrine has nothing to do with the video, Romney is revealed yet again.
It would drive the Democrats crazy for several months, because they wouldn't know which target to aim their attacks at, while we're hurling everything we've got at their chosen candidate. (But more likely, we'd be spending most of our time infighting.)
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