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To: ansel12
No he doesn’t. He clearly states what the policy of the church is. I will give it to you here as well.

Abortion

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believes in the sanctity of human life. Therefore, the Church opposes elective abortion for personal or social convenience, and counsels its members not to submit to, perform, encourage, pay for, or arrange for such abortions.

The Church allows for possible exceptions for its members when:

• Pregnancy results from rape or incest, or

• A competent physician determines that the life or health of the mother is in serious jeopardy, or

• A competent physician determines that the fetus has severe defects that will not allow the baby to survive beyond birth.

The Church teaches its members that even these rare exceptions do not justify abortion automatically. Abortion is a most serious matter and should be considered only after the persons involved have consulted with their local church leaders and feel through personal prayer that their decision is correct.

753 posted on 01/31/2008 11:48:04 PM PST by sevenbak (...and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness. Isaiah 29:18)
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To: sevenbak

You are ignoring the tape, the host drills him on this subject, posting the church doctrine has nothing to do with the video, Romney is revealed yet again.


759 posted on 02/01/2008 12:00:53 AM PST by ansel12
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To: sevenbak; ansel12
A competent physician determines that the life or health of the mother is in serious jeopardy...

Ansel, allow me to "translate" English for you just like somebody else "translated" the English Bible into an English translation 170-odd years ago: When Seven cites this LDS statement saying "competent physician," what he doesn't tell you is that over 90% of all abortions today occur in free-standing abortion clinics "courtesy" of either local full-time abortionists or by circuit-riding abortionists who traverse between 2 or more communities in a region. The vast # of abortions are NOT done by part-time OB GYNS in hospitals or as an outpatient in a doc's office (not any more). So, in 90% of the cases--higher if the girl/woman/partner or her family really wants the abortion [cause, duh, they'll just take her to an abortionist, not their family doc]--that "competent physician" who will say she "needs" the abortion is a money-grubbing, bottom-feeder abortionist who gets paid by how high the body pile is stacked!

A competent physician determines that the fetus has severe defects that will not allow the baby to survive beyond birth.

English translation into English: Since docs have been wrong thousands of times in "forecasting" disabilities, this statement should read, "A competent prophet-physician determines that the baby is disabled and can pinpoint their death day within usually 4-5 months..." [there, fixed it] Oh, and please note, just because this disabled boy or girl is going to die, why, that means they are now eligible for dismemberment with nothing given to the baby to offset the pain...Hmmm...aren't we all going to die??? Don't we ALL have a human condition that will mean we won't survive that disability we have called "sin?" And what does it say about a church when it targets a disabled child who's not causing any problems (under than emotional ones) for a 100% healthy mom?

Abortion is a most serious matter and should be considered only after the persons involved have consulted with their local church leaders and feel through personal prayer that their decision is correct.

English translation into English: Since we don't want the Mom or Dad or Grandparents of the baby to actually accept any responsibility for what they are about to do, why, we'll make God the great culprit--a before-the-act accomplice who ordered the "hit" job...Yeah, that's it...Why, He told us to dismember the baby!!! Why, we prayed about it (and our church was fully encouraging that we do...[whisper: as if those who pray about murdering a baby or not don't already likely have a predisposition toward carrying it out end-whisper] )

So, in summary, what have we learned about the "god" of this "general" counsel? Well, he doesn't always like severely disabled babies; or babies whose daddies were the sickest sinners (rapists & family rapists)...but he does bless abortionists & their business recommends...well, as long as they're "competent"...and be sure to note that I left in a caveat of this isn't "always" so because his ordering these hit jobs isn't "automatic"--why, sometimes, he just let's 'em live despite their disability or geneaology!

771 posted on 02/01/2008 12:31:01 AM PST by Colofornian
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