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Enforcement Works, And Leaves Questions (illegal immigration)
Captain's Quarters ^ | Jan. 11, 2008 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 01/11/2008 5:54:22 AM PST by jdm

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1 posted on 01/11/2008 5:54:23 AM PST by jdm
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To: jdm

First, the good news....Then...


2 posted on 01/11/2008 5:58:13 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: jdm

Excellent. 48 states to go! Maybe now these backstabbing business owners will hire LEGAL citizens and quit breaking the law.


3 posted on 01/11/2008 5:58:21 AM PST by Ron in Acreage (Thinking of new tagline)
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To: jdm
Every state that has enacted these types of laws has seen the illegals scramble out of the state. Seems to me they are on the right track.
Arizona’s law says the first offense gets you shut down for 10 days and the next time you lose your business license. How many small businesses could afford to be shut down for 10 days.
4 posted on 01/11/2008 6:00:10 AM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: jdm

Apparently one way or another we pay for it. I would rather pay for things legal. We will adjust.


5 posted on 01/11/2008 6:00:51 AM PST by donnab (saving liberal brains...one moron at a time.)
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To: jdm

I remember the nation before we were flooded with illegals. It was better then. The whining author can learn how to start a lawn mower.


6 posted on 01/11/2008 6:01:04 AM PST by mefistofelerevised
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"Raise wages....."

and this is bad???

7 posted on 01/11/2008 6:02:09 AM PST by ken5050
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Oklahoma unemployment rates--historical. Note that the 4.5% rate in November 2007 is lower than the 5.0 in July 2007 and far lower than the rates in 2003 and 2004. It looks like the pro-amnesty types want to tie cyclical unemployment rates to the cracking down on illegal aliens.
8 posted on 01/11/2008 6:06:18 AM PST by kabar
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Bingo. My parents work in Branson, MO. Wages were starting to increase to a livable level for the service industry - then the illegals started showing up.


9 posted on 01/11/2008 6:06:27 AM PST by knittnmom (...surrounded by reality!)
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To: jdm

Hit ‘em hard, but there is NO need whatsoever for confiscation prior to a conviction. After conviction, confiscation can be made part of the sentence if appropriate, but the last thing we need is to give government at any level another excuse to take things from an accused person or company before they’re even tried.

That having been said, huge kudos to Oklahoma for cracking down! Self-deportation works.

}:-)4


10 posted on 01/11/2008 6:12:59 AM PST by Moose4 (Wasting away again in Michaelnifongville.)
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The businesses that hired illegals will take a hit...but those that didnt will reap benefits

Since illegals were low paid, their leaving has little impact negatively....and a huge impact positively. The increase in wages will result in lower taxes with more revenue as illegals employers will have to return to a real-market wage

In the long term, Oklahoma will prosper. The doom and gloom of the pro-illegal/anti-American crowd will be proved wrong.

I am tired of media pro-illegal/anti-American spin. 1804 is a good law....and the Sooner state will reap its rewards

God Bless the Sooner State


11 posted on 01/11/2008 6:14:47 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Duncan Hunter: The Man Who Should Be President)
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To: jdm

Any idea why there’s a problem with labor supply in agriculture? AFAIK, there is no limit on the number of H2A visas for seasonal workers.


12 posted on 01/11/2008 6:17:23 AM PST by ruination
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To: donnab
We will adjust.

Not really. Companies that hired illegals didn't pass the savings down to the customers.

13 posted on 01/11/2008 6:18:04 AM PST by pnh102
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To: ruination

It’s cheaper to hire someone without paying for the visa.


14 posted on 01/11/2008 6:20:23 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: jdm
Oklahoma had almost full employment before 1804, so the seasonal work will be hard to fill

Maybe they should advertise for workers from Michigan. I hear they have 10% unemployment there.

15 posted on 01/11/2008 6:21:10 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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In order to make up for the labor shortage, these industries will have to raise wages, and therefore prices.<<

Yup...Thats exactly how supply and demand works in a free economy.....(2 sides to that equation) There is no job in America that Americans wont do ...(for the right price..Thats the demand side)

16 posted on 01/11/2008 6:42:28 AM PST by M-cubed (Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
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Thousands of people have simply left their jobs, leaving some business owners struggling to adjust:

Good, I hope it's painful for those Quislings.

Racist master, 1860: "But Rhett, without our African slaves, whoever shall pick our cotton cheaply?"

Racist master, 2007: "But Muffy, without our Mexican illegals, whover shall pick our lettuce cheaply?"

Racist masters choosing some cheap labor, 1860:

Racist masters choosing some cheap labor, 2006:


17 posted on 01/11/2008 6:58:39 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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Now they need to go after Greenleaf Nursery for all of the medical bills that their employees did not pay. Bet they were not making minimum wage.
18 posted on 01/11/2008 7:00:35 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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Note that in both instances, it’s the democRAT party supporting the ‘cheap labour’.


19 posted on 01/11/2008 7:02:19 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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http://www.greenleafnursery.com/sales_locations_ok.asp


20 posted on 01/11/2008 7:03:24 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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