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Do Democrats Really Want Us to Fail in Iraq?
American Thinker ^ | December 31, 2007 | Adam G. Mersereau

Posted on 12/31/2007 5:25:50 AM PST by vietvet67

Any time our government takes us to war, there is bound to be strong disagreement, but Iraq has been particularly divisive. At times it seems as if some Americans -- certain liberal Democrats in particular -- are eager to declare or even hasten our defeat.

Our missteps in Iraq have been numerous enough to discourage any patriot. Yet leading Democrats are beyond the point of discouragement. They are pessimistic; even hopeless. They have been this way for a long time.

At the first sign of difficulty, they deemed the war a mistake and victory impossible. They quickly adopted the language of defeat and surrender. Some declared the surge a failure before it began and General Petraus a liar before he uttered a public word about its effects. Others are quick to believe reports of alleged atrocities by our own troops, as if seeking an American disgrace. Now, leading Democrats seem to believe that recovery from past mistakes is impossible, and that any hint of success can be only illusory.

Why do so many Democrats cling so tenaciously to hopelessness, failure and despair in Iraq, even in the face of important recent successes?

The reason for this defeatism among Democrats lies beneath mere power politics, electioneering or disdain for President Bush. The real source of defeatism is rooted deep within the liberal mind.

Defeatist Democrats oppose the war in Iraq, not so much because they fear failure, but because they believe failure is inevitable. They believe the Bush Administration's goal of helping Iraq establish a democratic government is a fool's errand. They believe that the Western values on which democratic government is based -- and the Judeo-Christian truths from which those Western values are derived -- are not valid for Iraqis.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 110th; defeatists; pelosi; reid
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

Absolutely correct. I’ll add that the fall of the United States is imperative to their Leftist agenda as then the World would follow rapidly into their Global socialist control.

It’s truly an ugly picture.


21 posted on 12/31/2007 6:26:17 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Thermalseeker
"A man with a gun is a citizen. A man without a gun is a subject."

That is tremendous - I just ordered a bumper sticker for myself.

22 posted on 12/31/2007 6:29:04 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Kill the terrorists, secure the borders, and give me back my freedom.)
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To: napscoordinator
I agree. The Dems I talk to would sacrifice our soldiers and our country's standing in the world to somehow "prove" President Bush wrong and/or incompetent when it comes to Iraq.

They want Bush to lose and they don't care if that means the terrorists win.
23 posted on 12/31/2007 6:29:33 AM PST by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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To: andy58-in-nh

“A man with a gun is a citizen. A man without a gun is a subject.”

more likely - A man without a gun is a victim!


24 posted on 12/31/2007 6:38:39 AM PST by Froggie
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To: vietvet67

Do Democrats Really Want Us to Fail in Iraq?


Not all but many have let irrational hatred of Bush take over every aspect of their lives. I’ve never seen anything like it. They simply can’t or won’t understand any thinking that differs from theirs. The few bash Bush neighbors I have won’t even speak to me after I let them know that I don’t share their views.


25 posted on 12/31/2007 6:40:54 AM PST by Joan Kerrey (Believe nothing of what you hear or read and half of what you see.)
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To: Froggie
more likely - A man without a gun is a victim!

Victim and subject in this context are synonymous....in fact, there are many synonyms that could be used here. Serf, slave, DemocRat voters, etc.......

26 posted on 12/31/2007 6:49:08 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Debates? Those weren't no stinkin' debates!)
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To: Joan Kerrey

These people literally sit around hating America and hating Bush. Of course they want us to fail.


27 posted on 12/31/2007 6:49:15 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: vietvet67

“Do Democrats Really Want Us to Fail in Iraq?”

Rhetorical question, no?


28 posted on 12/31/2007 6:51:26 AM PST by roaddog727 (BS does not get bridges built)
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To: Buffalo Bob
Don't try and understand them,
Just 'round them up and brand them.

Rawhide...?

29 posted on 12/31/2007 6:54:00 AM PST by Gritty-Kitty
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To: Joan Kerrey
Not all but many have let irrational hatred of Bush take over every aspect of their lives. I’ve never seen anything like it. They simply can’t or won’t understand any thinking that differs from theirs. The few bash Bush neighbors I have won’t even speak to me after I let them know that I don’t share their views.

My neighbor, a widow, bitched and cursed at me in 2004 when I put a Bush sign in my yard.

I used to clean her driveway with my snowblower every time it snowed.

The operative phrase is "used to".

30 posted on 12/31/2007 7:08:39 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: vietvet67

Don’t have to brand them they do that for themselves.
They are the ones that cut in line at the grocery store.
They are the ones that look like they hate the world.
They are the ones with negative bumper stickers on their SUVS.
They are the ones with the sour looks on their faces drinking Starbucks coffee while browsing the self-help isles of Barnes and Noble.


31 posted on 12/31/2007 7:19:02 AM PST by ODDITHER
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To: USS Alaska

If it were me I’d keep on cleaning her driveway!

Just so that she’d have to thank me while she hates me ... :-)


32 posted on 12/31/2007 7:20:09 AM PST by hemogoblin (Islam -- it's all the rage)
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To: vietvet67

Do communists Really Want Us to Fail in Iraq?


33 posted on 12/31/2007 8:28:26 AM PST by onedoug
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To: vietvet67

Democrats and libs don’t believe in the war because they really don’t believe in America. The America of old where independence from the government was prized and belief in a Judeo-Christian moral standard was taken for granted.


34 posted on 12/31/2007 11:24:27 AM PST by driftless2
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To: vietvet67

You betcha they do


35 posted on 12/31/2007 11:26:04 AM PST by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: vietvet67
Don't know if you had a chance to catch my article at Newsbusters a while back.

Will the Left Ever Support the War on Terrorism?

http://newsbusters.org/node/6872/print

36 posted on 12/31/2007 11:36:14 AM PST by april15Bendovr (Free Republic & Ron Paul Cult = oxymoron)
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To: april15Bendovr

Well written article Chris. Thanks.


37 posted on 12/31/2007 12:02:32 PM PST by vietvet67
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To: period end of story

Isn’t it funny that the “war” on Global Warming has the same solutions as the “war” on Poverty?

Global Socialism always seems to be the answer. And that’s why they pursue these “wars” as opposed to a war that actually is in defense of our way of life instead of seeking to destroy it.

Tell you local “global warming” advocates this:

It’s the S-U-N, not the S-U-V, that’s causing global warming.


38 posted on 12/31/2007 12:05:18 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: vietvet67

Thank you


39 posted on 12/31/2007 12:05:33 PM PST by april15Bendovr (Free Republic & Ron Paul Cult = oxymoron)
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To: vietvet67
Do Democrats Really Want Us to Fail in Iraq?

Do bears......in the woods?

40 posted on 12/31/2007 12:07:07 PM PST by Godzilla (Some days you're the dog and others you're the hydrant.)
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