Posted on 12/30/2007 5:50:44 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball
I have a very simple question, and I'd really like your take on it. I don't mean this as antagonistic, but I'd really like to hear your answer.
Somewhere between 70 and 80 percent of the people here on Free Republic consistently express their clear preference in poll after poll for Fred Thompson or Duncan Hunter over Huckabee or Romney.
My question is: Why?
Why do you think, despite Romneys many millions spent and the claims of both Romney and Huckabee to be genuine conservatives, that Freepers haven't bought it? It is quite clear that most here are firm in their belief that neither Romney or Huckabee is an acceptable conservative. At least at this point of the game.
Why do we think this - in your opinion?
And then, why are we wrong?
Hank
What you said... posting tagline...
“That says a lot to me.”
What does it say to you?
Get it?
You obviously see Romney as a conservative, some of us dont.
“Based on what?”
Well, to begin with—his record as governor of MA. Do you think we should just believe what he says and ignore his record? A lot of people seem to think we should.
>>>WND also reports that Mike Huckabee is not a member of the CFR but that he spoke to the group in September and has since become a top- tier candidate in the medias eyes.
He is and has been under grant initiative programs of the NAU though. Healthy People 2010:
http://blog.barofintegrity.us/2007/10/25/attention-to-hsdla—information-and-open-letter-concerning-huckabee.aspx
Attention to HSDLA - Information and Open Letter Concerning Huckabee
That is Mojo, right?
Thompson Made the Most of Opportunities
SNIP: Marie Ragghianti, looking for a prominent Republican to take on her case against Tennessees Democratic power structure, had watched the televised hearings from a hospital bed while recovering from a lung biopsy and had been impressed by Thompson. The clincher was when she checked in with a friend who had once worked as Thompsons secretary.
She talked about how dedicated and committed he was to his clients and researching the issues, Ragghianti told AP recently. She complained that he worked her to death, and she couldnt take it and left.
Thompson got the case, and pressed it to victory.
I can still remember when the verdict was announced, turning and looking at him, and what I saw was his profile, just staring at the jury and the judge and looking extremely satisfied, Ragghianti recalls.
Remarkable, was all Thompson said.
That was how the story struck writer Peter Maas, too. The author of the best-selling book Serpico, Maas turned Ragghiantis experience into the 1983 book Marie: A True Story. And when director Roger Donaldson turned the book into the movie Marie, Sissy Spacek played the lead and Fred Thompson played Fred Thompson.
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I appreciate the answer, but I seriously doubt that's true. If Huckabee had a history of being a tax-cutting, spending-reducing, tough-on-illegals kind of guy rather than a nanny-stater, most here (I'm certain) would regard his background as a pastor either favorably or neutrally.
It's his very strong statist tendencies that worries us - not his religiosity. I for one find that quite appealing to the extent it is sincere (and I believe it is).
Hank
“There is a small vocal group, promoting hardcore unadulterated conservatism and will willingly cut off their nose to spite their face, for the chance to say they didnt yield a conservative inch, general election be damned.”
Hmm, sounds like you are talking about Jim Robinson and about 80% of the people on this forum.
“Moving in the right direction isnt good enough, which is true for losers.”
Yep, that about sums it up. We’re just a bunch of losers. At least that what’s they’re saying about us over at DU. Oh wait a minute, you said it too. Interesting...
ping
I’m witchubro....
I don’t hate anyone either, and when the time comes, I’ll be backing the right nominee, whoever that is.
“Freeper-favored candidates are languishing in the polls. That’s cause for concern.”
Is it?
I submit to you that he governed as a conservative.
Im not sold on Fred because he has done a better job of hiding his flaws. I like Fred because he is a conservative and he has a far more consistent record of being a conservative than Slick Mitt does.
You're deluding yourself.
Right in the mold of Huckabee not quite saying that Romney's Mormonism teaches the Christ and Lucifer were/are brothers or Hildebeast claiming, but not claiming, that the Pak government killed Bhutto the feminine.
Interesting.
I hope you are correct about that.
Meanwhile I ran across this item, which I believe is from a reliable source (September 2007 email).
Subject: More of me on Fred Thompson; fyi Spencer Abraham still works for him
To: _____________@____________
Fred Thompson. Marshmallow Republican. Conservative legend Richard Viguerie gives Fred Thompson an “F” on the Goldwater test and an “F” on the Reagan test of conservative leadership. Fred Thompson may be a nice guy but he is a Marshmellow Republican who has done almost nothing for the conservative cause for 10 years. Fred Thompson was one of the ring leaders for the unconstitutional McCain-Feingold law which was all about strangling the grassroots and protecting incumbents. Folks, we ARE the grassroots! That was an attack on us by insider politicians like Fred Thompson who want to shut us up at election time.
Even worse, Thompson appointed open borders fanatic Spencer Abraham to be his campaign manager last month. Then he “fired” him when we all started hollering about that. Obviously, Fred Thompson is an open borders candidate, being promoted by his Council on Foreign Relations buddies, to fool the conservative base. Thompson has no conservatives on his staff or who are his close advisors. Remember, people are policy. Also, recently Thompson refused to take a no-tax pledge while he was in Iowa. That is bad news.
The bottom line on Fred Thompson is that he is an open-borders, big- taxing, big spending Bush disaster part II, Marshmellow Republican who will sell the conservative agenda down the river the minute the Washington Post, NY Times or CNN starts whining.
Yeah, I live in CA also, and still wonder why if car insurance is mandatory, why am I still paying for uninsured motorists? Yeah, forcing someone to have health insurance is a good thing, just like living in a socialist country is a good thing. Makes so much sense....not. You must live in L.A. or maybe the bay area? It must be the ocean air.
Because no law can be enforced 100%. If there weren't an insurance mandate, you would be paying a lot more.
“Pro-choice, sanctuary city, socialised medicine.”
I asked for an example of where Romney had governed in a manner different from what he campaigned on in Mass. and you give me this.
Please explain.
Examining Huckabee’s Foreign Policy Vision
TomGuy had this to say about Huck:
In your heart, you know he’s a Jimmy Carter wannabe.
In this age of Islamofanatical terrorism, Huckabee’s warm and fuzzy approach to foreign relations just doesn’t cut it. We need a strong president, not a milquetoast compassionate conniver who would seem more comfortable pining from Oprah’s couch than from behind the President’s desk in the Oval Office.
Huckabee’s recent contention that Gitmo should be closed because it is a bad symbol [awwwwwww] in the rest of the world [i.e., liberals in Europe, the UN, and the Islamic world] is a prime example of the kind of foreign policy that makes the US appear weak in the eyes of the rest of the world. The next president will have to deal with an increasing dictatorial government in Russia, with and increasing military from China, with continued Islamofanatical terrorism sponsored by several Islamic nations, etc.
Ironically, some of Jimmy Carter’s policies are what lead us to much of the Islamist terrorism of today — his support of the overthrow of the Shah of Iran which lead to Carter’s impotence in dealing with the 444 days of American hostages at the US Embassy in Iran.
6 posted on 12/06/2007 5:38:56 AM MST by TomGuy
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