Posted on 12/24/2007 10:39:05 AM PST by Reform Canada
I saw the interviews with Ron Paul on Glen Beck and Meet the Press and found myself agreeing with much of what he said. He referred to a movie called Freedom to Fascism so I decided to watch. I am a very skeptical person yet I am now convinced. For the sake of your future and the future of your family watch this movie and decide for yourself.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173
If this post is removed I will be more convinced than ever
So The Only People who shall run for office are the ones that you approve of?
generally that's how it works, that's why we vote on who we approve off....DUH!
but the Ron Paul paullution runs deep, sadly. He is everything to everyone that feels left out because their views are too extreme for the mainstream, you know the majority of voters. That's why racist and neoconfederates sing along side the antiwar types and the druggies the praises of the Paul.
In the paul all the lunatic fringe elements can come together to overthrow the present government or so they believe.....
personally I can't wait until it all begins to unravel.
Rats....just when I thought I could get through Christmas without a fruitcake!
Looks impressive on paper, but tell me how is Iran going to re-supply cut off divisions when every aircraft they own is smoking wreckage?
Oh, give me a break. If you’re trying to say that any candate falling short of perfect is ‘evil’, then Ron Paul is just as ‘evil’ as the rest of those running.
It seems more people are worried about being wrong about ostriches than Paul being wrong about "Iran not having an army".
Paul isn’t Adolf Hitler. Good grief. Talk about hyperbole. The guy is a kook. He’s as entertaining as one of Santa’s elves running around for president. He should be making crackers with the Keeblers in the forest. He’s no Nazi.
*****That shows how incredibly CLUELESS Paul is. It is shocking, actually.
Let’s see here, Iran has the EIGHTH LARGEST MILITARY IN THE WORLD.....and Paul says they do NOT have one. He is pathetic, absolutely pathetic.*****
The Iran and Iraq military fought to a stand still for several (many) years. It took us like 2-3 days to wipe out the Iraqi military in this last war.
The idea that Iran has a military that could stand up to us is laughable.
Iran has essentially no navy and no air force. Now you can call that an army if you want.
No one ever said that Iran could ever stand up to the US military. Who said that?? To even think that is outrageous--almost as outrageous as Paul's CLUELESS comment. The fact remains that they have a half million troops under arms is a fact--and if you feel that they are not a threat to anyone--I suggest you ask the Israelis (who I feel confindently know better than you or I).
RON PAUL IS MAGIC! He made the Iranian armed forces (over half a million strong) disappear merely by speaking them out of existence. Send me $10 and I’ll send you a cutting from the hem of his garment. Rub it on a moose and it’ll crap ice cream.
Ron Paul isn't evil. He's magic!
Besides I heard Ron Paul explain to Neil Cavuto that "The Military Industrial Complex" is the REAL evil, and the Nazis aren't. The Nazis are only "bad" but they AREN'T the "real evil".
Here I always thought Nazis were evil, but now I know they're only sorta bad and that GENERAL DYNAMICS and RAYTHEON are evil!
If he doesn’t want to be considered an amateur, he needs to hire a professional narrator.
That is NOT what he said. He said specifically that Iran had no Army, Navy or Air Force. He made no comparisons or analysis of force capabilities. He merely stated they had none.
You can't spin out of it that easy.
I just got thinking....if we put a end to all the departments like what Ron Paul is demanding...like the IRS, ATF, DOL, DOE, VA, ETC
We are going to layoff somewhere 2,000,000 from the Federal Employment Payroll.
Civilian sector can only take on so many workers.
What will Dr Paul do then without starting another Revolution of angry unemployed who lost their homes because they couldn’t pay the mortgages?
How is that going to ripple through our economy?
Remember Ron Paul is no Ronald Reagan....
People like change...but not radical change.
You: generally that's how it works...
Your answer sounds like something Castro would say - No One Else Shall Run for Office, but the Party We Approve Of. Thanks for clearing that up.
"but the Ron Paul paullution runs deep, sadly. He is everything to everyone that feels left out because their views are too extreme for the mainstream,"
LOL! The answers here are so telling. So wanting to restore the constitution is "extreme." The desire for a president who isn't sold out is not what the "mainstream" wants. Wanting to restore our inalienable right and liberties is "fringe."
You got it backwards, dude. It's the regular people who are tired of phony politicians who are full of hot air, and continue to trample on our constitution, bill of rights and sovereignty. It's the regular people who don't want to see a future financial crisis because we're trillions in debt. It's the regular people who are tired of corruption and tired of Clintons and Bushes.
"That's why racist and neoconfederates sing along side the antiwar types and the druggies the praises of the Paul."
Your comment is so last month. We've gone over this many times, the vast majority of people who support Paul are people who want a return to the basics, the constitution, protecting our sovereignty and freedom and rights, and who don't like the direction the neocons or neolibs are taking us.
If there are a few people who would support Paul on one issue alone (the war) then that's their right, but they are foolish because if they are for socialism, they would be supporting someone who represents the opposite of what they want.
The bigger issue here, which you are completely ignoring is - Paul is clear about what he stands for, he has a long and consistent record, on most issues, he has been saying the same thing for years.
So the important thing is what does HE stand for, not what does every supporter of his believe in.
Liberty is a uniting message. Paul has stated numerous times that he believes in freedom, but not necessarily what everyone does with their freedom.
So it is ignorant to try to find the most distasteful supporters as a way to bash Paul - because what they believe is irrelevant to what Paul believes. He believes in the constitution, limited government, freedom, prosperity - all these things are what should matter, not what his supporters believe.
"In the paul all the lunatic fringe elements can come together to overthrow the present government or so they believe....."
LOL. I'm beginning to wonder why I'm wasting my time with this conversation. Not only is your post full of lame ad hominems, with very little substance, but you're obviously believing a distorted reality. I can see you haven't been around the Paul supporting forums and the people who support him. You have bought, hook line and sinker, the establishment MSM distortions that all his supporters are "fringe." I've been around Paul's supporters, the overwhelming majority are regular, decent people who simply want to restore our country to the constitution, and they don't like the direction we've been heading in.
"personally I can't wait until it all begins to unravel."
If by unravel you mean for it all to go away, good luck with your wish. This has turned into more than just a campaign, it has turned into a movement, not just here in the US, but all over the world. He has tapped into something that is not going to go away, even after RP has gone away. And I'm sorry to hear that on a 'conservative' forum, there are some who don't like his message of liberty, limited government, following the rule of law (the constitution), and the role of government - that our rights don't come from them, they are God-given and the government is supposed to protect them.
You were right the first time.
I think you just earned your Bachelor’s of Science in Ron Paul Speak. That’s a RPBS degree.
I’ve got a great idea for your masters thesis. Explain why an authorization of force was Constitutional in Afghanistan but not in Iraq. FYI, your doctorate dissertation will concern Letters of Marque and Reprisal.
I can spin it. The reason I can spin it is because I have followed Ron Paul for awhile now. Ron Paul knows Iran has a Army. His remarks of no Army, Navy, and Air Force has been consistently about the terrorists and not Iran. He misspoke, we have all done it before in the heat of discussion. I am not going to say he didn’t make a screw up by saying it, however that Iran does not have a army, navy, or air force has never been his statement before, but that has been his statement about terrorists. You can continue to believe that a 10 term congressmen doesn’t know that Iran has a army, or you can argue actual points of his plan.
The problem is not going to go away until as a country we cut spending, we spend more than we make. . Having programs in place that are detrimental to society, and is nothing more than transferring wealth from the middle class, to other middle class citizens so everyone is struggling is not the answer. Taking a dollar from someone, giving 50 cents of it to corruption and waste and filtering it to corporations, then pumping the other 50 cents back to the people you took it from in the first place is whats keeping the middle class down.
We have a system in place where one parent works to feed the family, while the other works to feed the government. How can one use taxing the income of its population as a reason to keep IRS agents employed. According to the governments own numbers the average person pays 51.7% of their earnings to some form of taxes, and the percentage is growing by the decade.
What is happening to the middle class? When are people going to wake up? Have you ever bothered to read the federal reserve act of 1913? Do you understand that a private corporation prints money, not the federal government. We issue them debt ridden bonds to print this money. What kind of logic is that? Why is the government not printing their own debt free money? Why should we be paying a third party to print money for the government, and we pay them mass amounts of money. This just angers me talking about it, and what’s worst is so many Americans think this system is perfectly fine, when the alternative would be prosperity for so many Americans.
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