Should Alimony Die a Quick Death?

Pajama Media ^ | December 19, 2007 | Helen Smith

[mountainbunny]

No, you didn’t. Answer it the way I wrote it, which was in response to a specific comment.

[mountainbunny]

That isn’t what you said. You said that if she filed for the divorce, she should get nothing.
You’d like to see that written into law?

[SamuraiScot]

I don’t believe all the children of the WW II soldiers who did not return became druggies, bums, failures, or the like.

Being abandoned, from the point of view of the abandonee, is not the same as having your father killed in circumstances not in his direct control. Let alone if he has died as a result of altruism or heroism on his part. A kid realizes, deep down, that if his father was killed in action, he died defending his country and his children.

In the first case, the kid has been implicitly told by his father that he's not working sticking around for. To grow up sane, the kid will have to find other sources of self-respect to make up for this devastating blow.

[grjr21]

What I was trying to get at is that the law shouldn’t differentiate between men and woman I know a guy who put his wife through Wharton so she could use her degree to help in his business.Do you think he will ever get anything , not a chance .She was nice about it and agreed to accept a a 25k lump sum payment.

[mountainbunny]

But that isn’t what the original poster said, was it?
We can all point to inequities, but the answer is not a blanket “the person who files for divorce loses everything”.

[zeugma]

As a result, Bob is absolutely devastated and shattered and in such a state of depression that he loses his job. He finds he has no children, no assets, a reduced motivation and capacity to earn and no income, and he sees no future. Bob also sees the grief in his children’s grandparents, uncles, aunts and cousins, who have been cut off from the children they’ve grown to love.

It's a wonder there isn't a heck of a lot more violence towards those who facilitate this type of destruction in the name of the law.

Fortunately for my ex, I'm not the violent fellow she's tried to make me out to be.

 

[TNoldman]

YES - Please make it 21 years retroactive.

Finally a good idea!

[liberty or death]

If I were to divorce my wife of 22 years, who has stayed at home and raised our 5 children? Alimony would be the least of what I feel I’d owe her.

[TNoldman]

Whose fault is it that the women has no work skills? Sounds like poor planning to me.

[HIDEK6]

Sometimes it reverses though.....

Rachel Ray is having to pay her unfaithful husband a huge settlement in their divorce.

I'm sure he earned every penny by putting up with her.

[liberty or death]

Also most of those widows remarried so there was a stepfather and quite often a good one.

[joe fonebone]

now, take a deep breath and read the first few words of my post.... "depends on who initiates the divorce"
of course there should be leeway in all proceedings, my response was in response to the your rant.....i have relatives that have lost everything due to a lying woman and a court system that favors, and even encourages the lying.... my brother finally fired his attorney and did his court stuff himself, and only then did he start to win his cases ( his count is he has beaten 15 lawyers by himself ) but the system is geared toward giving all to the woman ( my brother calls it the "Evil man" syndrome ) when he goes to the friend of the court for child support hearings, there are only womens magazines in the waiting room!!!! the system is rigged, and it is the feminazi's that are doing it...he wins because he is not an attorney, and can say and do things in court that an attorney cannot, even by pointing out the bias of the judge and rulings to the judge...

[sickoflibs]

I just read :

Taken Into Custody
by Stephen Baskerville, Ph.D.

http://www.conservativebookclub.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c7131

How the “divorce industry” destroys families — and threatens the civil rights of every parent
“Must reading for everyone who loves children, family, or justice.” — Phyllis Schlafly

[najida]

HEY!
I most folks like Rachel and he was a pervy horn dog that screwed around on her almost from day one.

Now she’s having to pay him to go away.

[najida]

Seems like you missed the

“women shouldn’t go to college but get married when they are in their teens because that’s when they are supposed to start having babies and they shouldn’t work outside of the home because the best moms are stay at home moms”

threads.

Its confusing around here sometimes!

[sickoflibs]

Well I am not talking about all women but more the housewife who runs the home, raising the kids, while the guys make a successful career. When the kids are 18 he can dump her, she does get half the assets but deserves her investment on his increased income. No fault divorce did this. This is not the big problem, child support is. Read :

Taken Into Custody
by Stephen Baskerville, Ph.D.

http://www.conservativebookclub.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c7131

How the “divorce industry” destroys families — and threatens the civil rights of every parent
“Must reading for everyone who loves children, family, or justice.” — Phyllis Schlafly

[cinives]

You are of course substantially correct, but I don’t believe that kids feel any less abandoned if the father’s death was out of his control. Yes, they may not feel so directly responsible or so worthless as many kids who have deadbeat dads do, but they still feel a profound loss. And more importantly, there is still no father in the home to give guidance or a father’s discipline, no matter the cause of the loss.

[cinives]

So, you’d prefer your wife to put the kids in daycare from age 6 weeks and go to work, and work 40+ hours a week, in the eventuality that you might divorce, than have Mom stay home to raise the kids and have few marketable job skills.

Sounds like planning to fail to me.

[PurpleMan]

Rachel Ray is an insufferable bore, untrained as a chef and worse, an untalented cook. When she opens her yap it’s like figernails on a blackboard.

[mountainbunny]

No, that is not what you said. You left part out.

You said: depends on who initiates the divorce....if the woman wants out of the marriage, then get out and make it on your own

While it is interesting that you have relatives who are 100% innocent, 100% injured parties, pure as the driven snow, faultless; taken in by sinful, demon women; who lost everything and now have not even two nickels to rub together, the answer is not to punish the person who ends the abuse by filing for divorce. This isn't the Middle East & we don't punish people for ending bad marriages. Even when they are just women.