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Should Alimony Die a Quick Death?
Pajama Media ^ | December 19, 2007 | Helen Smith

Posted on 12/19/2007 9:56:44 AM PST by PurpleMan

"...in today’s world, in which women have fought for the right to equality, alimony seems more like a kid getting an allowance from daddy and I believe it should be abolished altogether except for extremely dire circumstances where a spouse is older, cannot work at all, and for only a short term period. No man or woman should be held to being a slave to an ex-spouse after a marriage ends. That said, if we are going to have alimony laws, I believe that men and women should be held to an equal standard under the law."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: alimony; divorce; ex; marines; marriage
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To: joe fonebone

So if she works to send him through graduate school or law school, but wants out later because he gets a taste of the good life and wants to trade up to a newer model, or he beats her, or harms the children, or cheats on her, she should get nothing?

You are okay with men marrying women, using them financially, then making it impossible for them to safely or sanely stay married and stripping them of everything they worked for?


21 posted on 12/19/2007 10:15:31 AM PST by mountainbunny
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To: Sgt_Schultze

While I am adamantly against abortion unless to save the actual life of the mother, fairness dictates a man should be able to perform a legal abortion should the woman decide to deliver, which would release him from financial liability and prohibit his involvement.
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er, wouldn’t the same thing be accomplished by a paternity waiver, a legal document?


22 posted on 12/19/2007 10:17:15 AM PST by heartwood
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To: PurpleMan

100% agreement.


23 posted on 12/19/2007 10:18:19 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: PurpleMan
The confusing point to me is how the courts have no consideration for the welfare of the father even though he is expected to support his former family even if the wife remarries. ??? How is this logical.

How is any male making from 20 to 60 expected to give up half of his salary and still survive? The point is if the male can’t work, he can’t pay. If he can’t eat, he can’t work.

It reminds me very much of London’s debtors prisons, where they illogically keep you locked up until you pay. ???

So, look at it this way. If you shack up with a woman who already has a child, and live with her (unmarried) for [x] number of years, you can be declared married and legally liable for the welfare of the child.

However, if you were legally married and paying support, and your former wife remarries, then the new step father is not held liable for the welfare stepchildren regardless of how many year he acts as their ‘actual’ father.

Divorce laws in America are bizarre in the extreme and they are absolutely designed to ‘punish’ the father regardless of the circumstances of the divorce.

24 posted on 12/19/2007 10:18:52 AM PST by picard (Liberal: ability to supplant reality with multiple truths which are all in opposition to each other)
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To: PurpleMan

good follow-up read here...

http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=1298


25 posted on 12/19/2007 10:19:41 AM PST by woollyone (entropy extirpates evolution and conservation confirms the Creator blessed forever.)
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To: picard

Socialistic redistribution of wealth.


26 posted on 12/19/2007 10:20:06 AM PST by PurpleMan
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To: Bon mots

Single-mothers do a notoriously bad job of raising children. There are even names for children without fathers such as bast@rd. Men, on the other hand, do a remarkably good job as single parents.
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I only have to look at my own childhood to know that your universal rule is wrong.


27 posted on 12/19/2007 10:20:13 AM PST by heartwood
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To: heartwood

That would probably suffice in the instance the mother were to consent. But what about the mothers who choose to deliver to collect a paycheck?


28 posted on 12/19/2007 10:22:32 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: PurpleMan
Alimony happens when two people make a mistake, and one of them has to pay for it.
29 posted on 12/19/2007 10:24:09 AM PST by SmithL (Merry Christmas and Happy Holy Days to you!)
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To: SmithL

According to the bumper sticker, something else happens


30 posted on 12/19/2007 10:25:26 AM PST by PurpleMan
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To: SmithL

Sometimes it reverses though.....
Rachel Ray is having to pay her unfaithful husband a huge settlement in their divorce.


31 posted on 12/19/2007 10:26:08 AM PST by najida (As God is my witness! The cockatoos ate my breakfast..)
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To: heartwood; Bon mots

I think his comments may have been tongue-in-cheek, but he (or she) will have to clarify it for us.


32 posted on 12/19/2007 10:26:55 AM PST by MortMan (Have a pheasant plucking day!)
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To: picard
Divorce laws in America are bizarre in the extreme and they are absolutely designed to ‘punish’ the father regardless of the circumstances of the divorce.

So True!!! But it's not just Divorce laws, most other laws are just a screwey, look at the "squatters rights" laws for one more example...

33 posted on 12/19/2007 10:26:59 AM PST by logic (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE conservative candidate!!)
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To: joe fonebone

Ding, Ding, Ding !!!...we have the winner


34 posted on 12/19/2007 10:28:38 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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To: logic
Italics off!!!

Poof!!

There, that's better...

35 posted on 12/19/2007 10:28:42 AM PST by logic (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE conservative candidate!!)
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To: PurpleMan

No wonder so many people my age are shacking up. This divorce crap scares the schnit out of me.


36 posted on 12/19/2007 10:30:15 AM PST by GunRunner (Thompson 2008 - Security, Unity, Prosperity)
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To: Lockbox

You would be supported by a woman?


37 posted on 12/19/2007 10:31:30 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: PurpleMan
How is a Tennessee divorce like a tornado?

Someone's fixin' to lose a trailer.

38 posted on 12/19/2007 10:32:40 AM PST by SmithL (Merry Christmas and Happy Holy Days to you!)
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To: mountainbunny

and what if she works, then quits her job prior to divorce in order to get alimony, or lies on the stand in order to get alimony, or takes so much that the man has to live with relatives and bum a ride to work in order to pay the alimony based upon her lies in court??? happened to my brother-in-law, my brother, amd many friends......


39 posted on 12/19/2007 10:32:59 AM PST by joe fonebone (When in danger, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout)
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To: heartwood; Bon mots

And that of my child - left fatherless (by his choice) at age 3, today is a delightful, conservative college student who has a very bright future. Has not effectively had a father in 15 years, has never been in trouble of any kind, and made a 4.0 average this semester, her first, in college.

For a less anecdotal reference - I don’t believe all the children of the WW II soldiers who did not return became druggies, bums, failures, or the like.


40 posted on 12/19/2007 10:35:14 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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