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1 posted on 12/12/2007 11:10:17 AM PST by blam
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GGG Ping.


2 posted on 12/12/2007 11:17:13 AM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

Interesting.


3 posted on 12/12/2007 11:17:59 AM PST by GoLightly
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I was taught that the babies were left on a hillside. Still, it’s all interesting.


4 posted on 12/12/2007 11:18:06 AM PST by SoldierMedic (Rowan Walter, 23 Feb 2007 Ramadi)
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I thought this was already known? We were taught in college that the Spartans gave the weakly and the deformed to the Helots to raise.


6 posted on 12/12/2007 11:23:23 AM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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...bones studied to date came from the fifth and sixth centuries BC and come from 46 men.....Aristomenes and his 50 warriors, who were all thrown into the pit... Maybe it's them!.............
7 posted on 12/12/2007 11:24:26 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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Aren’t baby bones mostly cartillage? IIRC, the Spartans would decide on its fate immediately after the birth of the baby.


8 posted on 12/12/2007 11:25:20 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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Rumor likely started by early Pro-Abortion democrats.


9 posted on 12/12/2007 11:28:39 AM PST by deathrace2000 ("I regret that I have but one life to give for my country", Nathan Hale before execution.)
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Thanks - I’d really been fretting about this...


12 posted on 12/12/2007 11:31:16 AM PST by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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Come on, how can any self-respecting Sparta themed post not have a picture from "300" in it yet???


17 posted on 12/12/2007 11:50:09 AM PST by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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Can we throw worthless, er, uh, I mean all DUmmies into a pit off the coast of San Francisco?

PLEASE!!!


21 posted on 12/12/2007 12:13:55 PM PST by marine86297 (I'll never forgive Clinton for Somalia, my blood is on his hands)
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I hate to say it, but some babies should be tossed.
24 posted on 12/12/2007 12:34:32 PM PST by Bon mots
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ping


26 posted on 12/12/2007 12:43:49 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: blam

My own mother, an arranged marriage immigrant bride from Sparta (Sparti)-— mentioned frequently the practice..

She never described the technique - but maintained that under certain circumstances it was still practiced into the 20th century...

Even in her old age — she would VERY carefully examine all the newborns to the family in an almost ghoulish manner..

We would all breath a sigh of relief when she would smile and pass the newborn back to its mother...

I this case — I’ll go with my mother’s account..


34 posted on 12/12/2007 1:52:47 PM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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Would smaller boned babies be eaten or otherwise have a reason for not being preserved like full grown bodies?


37 posted on 12/12/2007 2:25:26 PM PST by Raycpa
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Μολὼν λαβέ

Most Spartans and more generally Greeks today know that this particular aspect of Spartan life - nonsense promoted by British and German archaeologists based on the agendized Plutarch - was never true. Bravo Dr. Pitsios!

38 posted on 12/12/2007 2:31:07 PM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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Thanks Blam. While I'm not really a fan of Plutarch, this cliff was known as "the place of rejection"; there's never been a second of doubt about it before; infant bones exposed to the elements would be long gone; fresh infant remains would have been hauled off whole or in pieces by scavengers, so there'd be nothing left anyway. My guess is this is some kind of attempt to defend a NAMBLA-type society from the ancient world, and is being done for current political reasons.

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57 posted on 12/13/2007 9:04:09 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, December 10, 2007____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Most of what we think we know about Spartan culture and practices was written by their enemies, or at least by people unsympathetic to Sparta. They left very little written records themselves.


59 posted on 12/13/2007 9:42:38 AM PST by jalisco555 ("The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history." Winston Churchill)
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According to Pitsios, the bones studied to date came from the fifth and sixth centuries BC and come from 46 men, confirming the assertion from ancient sources that the Spartans threw prisoners, traitors or criminals into the pit.

Now, THAT is Spara!

74 posted on 12/14/2007 12:00:45 PM PST by Tribune7 (Dems want to rob from the poor to give to the rich)
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