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Wolves to be removed from southwestern N.M.
The Associated Press ^ | 11/29/2007

Posted on 12/01/2007 9:24:58 PM PST by george76

More endangered Mexican gray wolves have been targeted for removal from the Gila National Forest in southwestern New Mexico.

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service ...

The wolf reintroduction program requires the permanent removal of any wolf linked to three livestock killings a year ...

Fish and Wildlife spokeswoman Elizabeth Slown says the Aspen Pack has killed a horse and five cows since the beginning of the year.

(Excerpt) Read more at kob.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Mexico; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: alf; animalrights; animals; ar; elf; esa; graywolves; mexican; mexicangraywolves; sss; usfws; wolfpack; wolfpacks; wolves; wolvesattack
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To: Shyla

They are adorable. My children each sponsor one from here:

http://www.lakotawolf.com

That doesn’t mean I wouldn’t kill a predator that was on my land though. Just like a predator would kill me or my family if we were on his turf. That is how territory is defined in the animal world.


21 posted on 12/01/2007 10:01:44 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: george76

Tastes like chicken?


22 posted on 12/01/2007 10:02:11 PM PST by tubebender (The probability of being watched is directly proportional to the stupidity of your act.)
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To: tubebender

Not a good idea. I hear they can be bribed. Here comes a few democrats now with kibble.

/teasing


23 posted on 12/01/2007 10:03:46 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: george76; Tijeras_Slim

Ya know Illegals are catching those wolves and eating them don’t ya ?:o)


24 posted on 12/01/2007 10:05:33 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: tubebender; Calpernia; girlangler

The pay back from the wolf pack removal program ?


Someone is shooting and killing cows ...from a car along west Marin County’s back roads, furious ranchers and agriculture leaders ...

This week’s shooting was the third cow shot in the past few weeks, according to ranchers, who say three deer carcasses also have been found in the area from gunshots.

Marin County Sheriff’s Lt. Scott Anderson said two of the shootings were reported. He said deputies are investigating.

“We’re very concerned about this,” said Mike Gale, president of the Marin County Farm Bureau.

“Obviously, there’s the financial loss. There’s also the unprovoked killing of anything - cow or a deer - anything,” Gale said.

“They left a calf in the middle of the field without its mom. It is so despicable,” Gale said.

http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070322/NEWS/703220329&SearchID=73275847163294


25 posted on 12/01/2007 10:07:21 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

EPA depopulation bid?

We had a suspicious pig farm depopulation here about 2 weeks ago.


26 posted on 12/01/2007 10:13:11 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: george76

Any word on what caliber was used?


27 posted on 12/01/2007 10:19:02 PM PST by tubebender (The probability of being watched is directly proportional to the stupidity of your act.)
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To: Porterville
I love animals... Can’t help it... I want the wolves to succeed.

What about baby moose and bear cubs the wolves also prey upon?

28 posted on 12/01/2007 10:19:17 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: george76
The wolf reintroduction program requires the permanent removal of any wolf linked to three livestock killings a year ...

I'd like to know the interpretation of permanent removal. Does that mean from the face of the earth, or over to the next county where they can chow down on stock from a new ranch until another year passes and they are again ID-ed and targeted for permanent removal.

29 posted on 12/01/2007 10:19:55 PM PST by kitchen (Any day without a fair tax thread is a good day.)
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To: george76
The Idaho Fish & Game 2007 guide has a section on "wolf management". In 2006, biologists counted 72 packs with a minimum of 673 wolves in Idaho (41 breeding pairs). Idaho Fish & Game says that number is over 700 in Idaho at the current time (per their website). The initial introduction of 66 gray wolves 12 years ago in central Idaho has grown to over 1200 spread over Idaho, Montana and Wyoming. Some have spread into Oregon, Washington and Utah as well. The federal minimum that Idaho seeks as its management target is 15 breeding pairs. The wolves of "succeeded" far beyond what was ever intended and contributed to the demise of big game hunting for deer, elk and moose in Idaho. Never mind the impact on domestic livestock herds.
30 posted on 12/01/2007 10:22:14 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: george76
The jackass(es) shooting livestock and deer need to be arrested and prosecuted. That kind of lawless behavior makes life difficult for law abiding hunters and gives the anti-hunting, gun grabbing Democrats fodder to create more anti-hunting and gun control laws.
31 posted on 12/01/2007 10:27:52 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: george76

I don’t know but they’re having trouble up near Wall Lake, they’re killing everything, cats, dogs, horses and cows and people are afraid children are next. These are just the confirmed kills.


32 posted on 12/01/2007 10:28:40 PM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Shyla
I had a wolf/collie cross for 12 years. They make fine pets, but are fiercely loyal to the family. Having visitors in the home is always a risky proposition.
33 posted on 12/01/2007 10:29:37 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: george76

Wolves kill dogs everyday during winter in Alaska. Their numbers here in the interior have exploded. We need bounties back in existence or our moose will soon be gone. I see a wolf every couple weeks so far this winter. May be because caribou are moving thru. I did shoot at one in late sept from my boat on the Yukon but hard hitting anything with crosshairs swinging all over, (when you go to shoot from boat, nobody sits still you know).

Yesterday a buddy and I ran down the winter closed road outta where we live about 45 miles on snowmachines. Soon as we dropped off Summit, temps bottomed right out; from around zero to minus 25-30. We stopped at this once spot where caribou often cross and had to build a fire to warm up before ride back home; man did it seem cold, just not used to it yet this year I guess.

Anyway, right before dusk, my buddy looks 400 yards down the road and sez, look here come a single bou walkin down road toward us. It wasn’t a caribou but a dang wolf. I grabbed my rifle and leaned down on metal sled I pull with snowmachine. He must heard my gun hit the sled, cause that second he went sideways on road then jumped back into the brush off the road; another 2 seconds and I’d had him.

So, I don’t know if I was lucky to see him; or unlucky to not get off shot, ha ha. All I know for sure is I wish there were alot less wolves around where we live as they are really working the moose over bad.


34 posted on 12/01/2007 10:36:56 PM PST by Eska ( the re)
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To: kitchen
Well ... I guess I should have looked at the source before posting. (That's a novel thought.)

Notwithstanding their death or incarceration requirement, I don't trust the USFWS. If they can't figure out some way to spring 'em, their brothers and sisters in alf/sinapu will help out.

35 posted on 12/01/2007 10:40:01 PM PST by kitchen (Any day without a fair tax thread is a good day.)
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To: george76

Maybe it’s the Earth Firsters on the loose again. Or those Earth Liberation Front (ELF) types who burned up anything “non-natural” to the area environment in a number of western locations.


36 posted on 12/01/2007 10:42:32 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: tubebender

you have stolen my kind of humor and now i must stare at your user name until you are sent to planet kendor!!


37 posted on 12/01/2007 10:52:12 PM PST by robomatik
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To: george76
I have long supported the reintroduction of wolves. I think that we need large numbers of them in places like Boston, New York and LA. Those are the sort of places where Sierra Club et al get so much of their money to push this sort of agenda so I say, let them have wolves in their own back yards.
38 posted on 12/02/2007 12:31:34 AM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: george76

I drove through western N.M. 10 days ago on way to Las Vegas. Saw a wolf in a field smelling something dead. Impressive but a little frightening.
Also two years ago one was killed at the entrance to my rural neighborhood in South East Florida. Western St. Lucie County.


39 posted on 12/02/2007 2:13:06 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: george76

Just another border security measure being removed......


40 posted on 12/02/2007 4:33:44 AM PST by proudofthesouth (Liberalism IS a mental illness.)
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