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Fox News Live Thread: Candidates to Sell Conservative Credentials at Republican Debate
Fox News ^ | 10-21-2007

Posted on 10/21/2007 2:19:55 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

Edited on 10/21/2007 3:12:06 PM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
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To: DoughtyOne

Me too, but what he says now, he sure says with conviction. I’m a Hunter person, as you know, but I see strong points in Thompson, Romney, Hunter, and Guiliani. I think Hunter could do just as good, if not better job than Huckabee...who I have no problem with...just for some reason am not really hot on the guy. He speaks well enough...just something that I can’t explain.


881 posted on 10/21/2007 7:02:33 PM PDT by NordP (Such tough choices ahead, I'm now a "middle of the road" voter--somewhere between RUSH & Savage ;-))
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To: The Pack Knight

“States rights” is FRed’s favorite excuse for inaction or weakness on any given issue, other than uninformed staffers of course.


882 posted on 10/21/2007 7:02:37 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: devolve

If she gets any shorter and fatter she will soon make a good football for them to kick around!


883 posted on 10/21/2007 7:02:39 PM PDT by potlatch ("Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance!")
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To: Sunnyflorida
Alan is going to rip MediaMatters a new one for the horrible prep they did for him.

ROFLOL! But, it's TRUE!

884 posted on 10/21/2007 7:02:48 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: alicewonders

[Rudy needs to avoid answers that have the letter “S” in them - he can’t say it without a lisp.]

I woouldn’t care if a candidate had a cleft palate and paralysis of one side if he/she was a true Reagan conservative!


885 posted on 10/21/2007 7:02:55 PM PDT by dbacks (Taglines for sale or rent.)
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To: txflake

You think the Dims would be smart enough not to stack the poll that quickly for RP. If anyone doesn’t think his campaign is not being pushed by the Clinton Chinese Mafia is completely naive. They are despaRAT for a Perot, but all they got is Ron Pat Paulson.

Pray for W and Our Troops


886 posted on 10/21/2007 7:03:20 PM PDT by bray (Think "Betray U.S." Think Democrat)
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To: rodguy911; Jim Robinson; All

This was Jim’s comment on our Yahoo group site,
freerepublic2 about 25 mins. ago.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freerepublic2/message/38959

“The FR server is down

Sorry folks. Looks like we’ve had a hard crash. And John is having problems bringing it back online remotely. Look looks like he may have to drive up to San Jose to get it fixed. If so, we’ll be down for the rest of the day.

When it rains, it pours.

Jim”

~~~

Thanks a million, Jim and John, for getting us back up!


887 posted on 10/21/2007 7:03:20 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: All
McCain just said he is the MOST conservative out of all the candidates.

And people trust this guy when he boldly LIES on national cable TV?

888 posted on 10/21/2007 7:03:33 PM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: bray

“I doubt Rudy has a shot at the South, but would make a pretty decent VP with his ability to debate.”

When thinking about a VP, one should consider they are simply a moment away from becoming President at any time. Debate skills are very low on my list of Presidential qualities.


889 posted on 10/21/2007 7:03:35 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: dbacks

What is the boeing thing who/when went to jail


890 posted on 10/21/2007 7:03:53 PM PDT by malia (President Bush***FreeRepublic*Rush*FreeRepublic*Beck*SandRat*FreeRepublic*Rush*FreeRepublic*Beck*)
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To: DoughtyOne

Cameron


891 posted on 10/21/2007 7:04:03 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Hunter / Keyes '08)
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To: exit82

“Romney now saying all the things he would do against gay marriage—which he SHOULD have done when he was governor of Massachusetts.”

You got that right! Instead he leaves the mess for everyone in MA to have to live with!


892 posted on 10/21/2007 7:04:06 PM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: longtermmemmory
They need to NOT be invited to the next debate.

Yeah. Let's let the Democrat Media winnow our candidates for us. /s

893 posted on 10/21/2007 7:04:13 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Overall, I thought all of the Republicans did well. All of them came across as men who could be trusted to run the country. All of them did a good job of airing differences while focusing on the fact that the Democrats are a disaster. I still think that there were winners and losers. Here is my ranking.

Fred Thompson - While Fred Thompson is still my third or fourth choice, I think he did the most good for himself in tonight's debate. He's managed to keep expectations low, and simply rising above those expectations helps him. Tonight, he did well, and I will say that he did well regardless of expectations. He looked good when he stood by his previous position on Medicare and Medicaid. Those stances aren't going to be popular in Florida, but he's willing to take those stands for the reasons he stated. He looked good when he explained his tort reform votes (even though I don't completely believe his defense of his votes). He didn't seem as comfortable with foreign policy questions, but he did well enough.

Mitt Romney - Mr. Romney is still a great speaker, and his ability as a speaker always makes him strong in these venues. He didn't say anything that could be twisted the way his statement about checking with lawyers was. He cited his record as governor of Massachusetts, private management experience, and leadership of the Olympics effectively. He made as good a case as can be made for the marriage amendment. He must position himself as the "anti-Rudy" who can hold the core voters in the party, and he still looks good in that role.

Rudy Giuliani - Rudy Giuliani is still in the lead in the polls, and his goal is to keep his supporters from bolting to other candidates. If he does this, he'll pick up some undecided voters and may pick up enough to win the nomination. He mostly needed not to make any major mistakes, and he didn't make any major mistakes.

The rest - The rest of the field did well enough, but tonight was not good for anyone except these three. John McCain had some good applause lines, but he didn't appear to offer anything that we can't get in other candidates. He can talk about being a consistent conservative, but he's stabbed conservatives in the back too many times. Tonight's debate made his losing position more obvious. Mike Huckabee did well enough, but everyone else's performance was good enough that Mike Huckabee's speaking skill no longer stands out. His talk about health sounds good, but he sounds like one more idiot nagging us about eating and exercise. Mike Huckabee needs to be able to distinguish himself in these debates, but he didn't.

While Duncan Hunter remains my favorite candidate, he didn't receive many questions. He seemed like someone who was being offered a spot as a courtesy and not because he has a real chance. Being seen in that way hurts him further. The same is true for Tom Tancredo.

As always, Ron Paul will obviously not win either the nomination or the presidency. He's simply wrong on too many issues. The media likes including him in the debates because he says something different, but he's adding nothing to the debates. Those who are serious about sorting the Republican field would like to see a debate without wasting time on him.

Bill

894 posted on 10/21/2007 7:04:17 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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McCain
895 posted on 10/21/2007 7:04:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Old Chinese Proverb (well sorta) say dance with the one who brung ya. Yes we very much like Crinton.)
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To: Idaho Whacko
Don’t forget that the only conservatives that can get on the federal bench are Catholic. With the dual problems of being taught and advised and spiritually educated by child molesters, and the whole Catholic guilt thing, I am suspicious of Catholics.

That's OK, this Catholic is suspicious of assholes and you are a prime suspect.

896 posted on 10/21/2007 7:04:43 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: longtermmemmory
Huckabee supports the Pre-Bate entitlement program. He goes for the FairTax Scam. he is a straw man which Giuliani can use to divide and conquer the real support.

1. What is "Pre-Bate?"

2. We need an individual to counter Giuliani. Huckabee is hardly straw, inside.

897 posted on 10/21/2007 7:04:54 PM PDT by unspun (.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
I'm a Thompson fan and although I believe he did well tonight, I was very surprised at the showing of Huckabee. Ron Paul is a strict constructionist and perhaps the only one of those on the stage. But he comes across as a loon and he can't win. Even against Hillary, who is faaaaaar LOONIER!
898 posted on 10/21/2007 7:04:55 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: jonathanmo

Oh, I thought that was a vote of no confidence. Guess I screwed up.


899 posted on 10/21/2007 7:05:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Old Chinese Proverb (well sorta) say dance with the one who brung ya. Yes we very much like Crinton.)
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To: NordP

Yes, Hunter was spot on.

BTW i recently saw Judy G. interviewed.
I think she is bright and humble person


900 posted on 10/21/2007 7:05:30 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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