Posted on 10/20/2007 1:49:17 PM PDT by no nau
True to his word, Ron Paul abolishes the IRS, the CIA, the border patrol, and calls all military personnel stateside to serve as border guards.
Problems immediately start to arise. The income tax code is still law, but with no enforcement agency, people soon just stop paying taxes. Congress tries to implement supplementary measures, but ultimately enforcement is the duty of the Executive and the Paul Administration has announced they will pursue no enforcement of income or payroll tax collection.
The US government goes bankrupt in the first year of the Paul Presidency. Social Security and Medicare benefits cease to be provided. Many of the old and disabled are forced to steal to survive. However, with the Paul Presidency endorsing the right of property owners to kill on sight such plunderers, hundreds of such people are killed each day.
Meanwhile, the military cannot be funded. There is no money for logistics -- much less for member benefits. The Congress is forced to enact conscripted service legislation which Ron Paul signs (perhaps he realizes a veto will be overridden anyway). However, these conscripted members are given almost no pay or benefits and are working as virtual slaves. Military moral is at a horrific low, of course, and corruption, chaos, and desertion being the rule in the military. There is no ability of the military to accomplish its only duty under a Paul Presidency -- serve as border guards.
Meanwhile, Islamic militantism is emboldened. They step up attacks around the world. In the second year of the Paul Presidency, they sneak suitcase nukes into New York and Washington DC and detonate them. Hundreds of thousands of lives are lost with untold others critically injured. The hospitals have already been overrun with the Paul Presidency destitute seeking benefits, and have no way to deal with the injured. An already severely crippled country descends into complete chaos. A Ron Paul goal has been accomplished. There is effectively no federal government.
The Nation fractures into local ad hoc governments and is overrun with foreign squatters. Many areas of the former US have been claimed by militant Islamics who institute Sharia law. The federal government has no power and is merely a figurehead institute. Ron Paul proclaims that this what the founding fathers envisioned and his job is done.
So we need a strong, overbearing central government to prevent Sharia law from breaking out in the United States? How can anyone take this tripe seriously....
And that cuts spending how, exactly?
You missed that Ron Paul is a Republican. He differs from the Libertarian party on several issues, and border security is one of them.
Most people have no idea how much money the government steals a nickel at a time. The Fair Tax makes Americans aware of exactly how much the government is taking from them in order to buy votes from others.
“What Would a Ron Paul Presidency Really Be Like?”
Hebert Hoover’s.
Lots of lumps for everyone.
The IRS is part of the Department of the Treasury, which is an executive department. They can be created or abolished at the will of the President. I'm really not sure where the CIA falls into the scheme of things, but I'm fairly certain that it is an executive agency, also.
If Paul refused to enforce the law for example to pay social security or collect taxes, he would be impeached and removed as he should be.
Maybe, maybe not. If Paul really were elected, it would be a pretty clear mandate. I'm not sure that it would necessarily want to tinker unless Paul's approval ratings were very low.
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Is it this one?
I maintain that he could. It is a part of the Executive Branch, and any attempt by Congress to interfere in the functioning of a department that is under the exclusive jurisdiction of the Executive branch will run into separation of powers problems. There might be a political fight over it, but I think that as a matter of practicality, the President would hold all the cards in this one. I vaguely recall a Supreme Court case that dealt with whether Congress could require the President to spend money in the budget. It seems like that would shed some light on this question.
Without government interference and the massive multi-layer tax burden, health care costs drop, everything costs less, our manufacturing base goes into over drive, people start making money hand over fist, and the US rockets back into the #1 economic slot over taking Dubai once again.
Without 22,000 unConstitutional gun laws on the books, drug related crime dies and hiring Blackwater militiamen to help police the border halts illegal immigration in it's tracks.
Islamic extremists, attempting to recreate 9-11, find that their home countries are in a set of nuclear crosshairs. Starting with the carpet bombing of Mecca.
The UN, now relocated to France, becomes increasingly irrelevant.
Legislation to overturn Roe V Wade is pushed to Congress and all Federal Funding for abortion clinics is ended via Executive order.
And the answer to the line item veto decision was in fact the President is bound to spend the monies appropriated by Congress and SIGNED BY HIM in appropriation bills. There is no federal line item veto.
And again all those thousands of people would still be working in those agencies and performing the same jobs even if the president rearranged the boxes on the chart and none of them said for example CIA.
Asked and answered.
I posted a straight answer to MNJohnnie approximately two weeks ago, against my better judgement.
Not that any of you Paul bashers care to read it.
Sometimes I wonder about the Paul bashers.
I'm thinking they might have a vested interest in the continued growth of big government or of turning our country over to a global U.N. government.
No other way to explain them.
I don't know about ROTLC, but I have seen more than one post from a REPUBLICAN who said he would rather support Hitlery than vote for Ron Paul.
Hope that answers your question.
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