"Good job, Comrade!"
Posted on 10/11/2007 6:32:27 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
A Minnesota university has suspended one of its graduate students who sent two e-mail messages to school officials supporting gun rights.
Hamline University also said that master's student Troy Scheffler, who owns a firearm, would be barred from campus and must receive a mandatory "mental health evaluation" after he sent an e-mail message arguing that law-abiding students should be able to carry firearms on campus for self-defense.
Hamline spokesman Jacqueline Getty declined on Wednesday to answer questions about the suspension, saying that federal privacy laws prohibited the school from commenting. Scheffler had previously waived his privacy rights in a letter to Hamline University President Linda Hanson.
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1st Amendment - Violated
2nd Amendment - Violated
3rd Amendment - OK
4th Amendment - Probably Violated if he has to submit to a psychological exam
5th & 6th Amendment - Probably violated since he is being tried by the university and has already been suspended
7th Amendment - OK
8th Amendment - Possibly violated if suspending a grad student is not a common practice.
9th & 10th OK
But, to the point. I would defend the right of you or anyone else on this board or the student mentioned in this article (or anyone else) to make his views known with out being punished by the PC thought police. On the main direction of the article I stand 100% behind you.
"Good job, Comrade!"
Excuse me??? He shares a belief about a controversial political issue with half the American public (the smarter half), and this give those uniquely enlightened ones the right to confiscate his tuition and oder mental health treatment?? Sounds like they need a good lawsuit and unemployment application on their hands.
That's a normal day at FR. I can't recall the last time an FR member went on a murderous rampage...
On the grounde that he paid the tuition and they accepted it, presumably without a disclaimer saying it was at risk if he harbored unapproved political views.
The sad thing is I remember carrying concealed on campus when I was at the University of Alabama in the late 70's.
Almost all of the Army ROTC cadets who were getting their commissions in combat arms, did so. Army ROTC used to get M60 machine guns from the Alabama National Guard for our FTXs (Field Training Exercises) which was great for the Guard because we always cleaned them bright and shiny before returning the weapons. The blank ammo was always really dirty and fouled up the actions big time. We took extra care to clean everything we borrowed. I'll bet that practice has been stopped, too.
I would not have suspended him, but I would have told him not to return for the next semester.
His emails are an embarrassment. I’ve told subordinates at work (military) not to hit ‘send’ when you are mad - calm down first, delete your draft and start over. Angry emails persuade no one.
And while rough emails are OK when sent to a coworker who knows you, it is well worth the time to craft a solid email when writing a stranger, or advocating a change in policy.
Sounds like you've made a great argument for banning alcohol from campus, not guns.
I’m confused. Nothing in either of those emails refers in any way to the school’s firearms policy.
I guess I “dodged a bullet” by resurrecting my grad school’s 2nd Amendment Society and doing my thesis on Gun Rights.
Let’s see the text of the e-mails, then decide.
‘His emails are an embarrassment. I’ve told subordinates at work (military) not to hit ‘send’ when you are mad - calm down first, delete your draft and start over. Angry emails persuade no one.’
Same view here.
Veni Vidi Vici....me myself, and I ???
My father used to say that. Never knew what it meant, until now.
must receive a mandatory “mental health evaluation”
Shades of the Soviet gulags — Ve must get your head right.
This is scary stuff.
First a boy named Sue, and now this.
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Exactly how?
"Angry e-mails: One point is that while Scheffler's e-mails were not threatening, they were angry and had sexist and racist overtones. Read them for yourself: The first, to Vice President of Student Affairs David Stern, said: "I myself am tired of having to pay my own extremely overpriced tuition to make up for minorities not paying theirs. On top of that, I am sick of seeing them held to a different standard than the white students (Of course its a lower and more lenient standard)." The second message, to President Linda Hanson, said: "For a 'Christian' university, I am very disappointed in Hamline. With the motif of the curriculum, the atheist professors, jewish and other non-Christian staff, I would charge the school with wanton misrepresentation...3 out of 3 students just in my class that are 'minorities' are planning on returning to Africa and all 3 are getting a free education ON MY DOLLAR." (Hamline is affiliated with the United Methodist Church and claims to promote "the ethics and values of the United Methodist tradition.")"
That's how it should read.
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