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Why Democrats Must Lie To Win (Rush Mentions Free Republic Alert)
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | 10/08/2007 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 10/08/2007 4:05:23 PM PDT by goldstategop

RUSH: I had some rudimentary information on this two weeks ago, and it wasn't enough for me to trust going with. But since then, it has been verified, and most of it's been verified by a "Freeper" at Free Republic. Everybody is writing about this now, since the Freeper posted it over the weekend. This 12-year-old kid that the Democrats used in the Saturday radio address to whine and moan and cry to President Bush about the S-CHIP children's health program, it turns out that the family of this kid sends its kids to "one of Baltimore's expensive private schools." This family owns a house in a neighborhood of homes valued in the $400,000 to $500,000 range. This family bought commercial property in 1999 for $160,000.

This is Graeme Frost, the 12-year-old, and Frost's father is self-employed. He owns the building in which he works. His father makes about $45,000 a year while his mother is employed is at an unspecified salary by a medical publishing house that doesn't provide health insurance coverage. Bottom line. This is from Mark Tapscott, who is an editorial page editor at the Washington Examiner, has been tracking all this on the blogs. "Two points. First, people make choices and it's clear the Frosts have made choice to invest in property and a business, but not in private health insurance. The Maryland-administered version of the federal SCHIP program, by the way, does not impose an asset test on applicants." It's one of the states where you have no asset test, so anybody can be part of the program! What the Democrats did: "President Bush used his regular Saturday radio address yesterday to explain and defend his veto of the massive expansion of the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) approved last week by Congress. ... An hour later on national radio, the Democrats' response to Bush was delivered by Baltimore private middle school student Graeme Frost, who along with his sister was seriously injured in an auto accident three years ago.

"His response to Bush was actually recorded earlier in the week and Matthew Hay Brown, a reporter from The Baltimore Sun, interviewed the young man after he did his recording. Frost said his parents work hard to provide for him and his sister but one thing they can't afford is private health insurance, so they have to depend upon the government program, Brown reported for The Sun. Perfect illustration of why the SCHIP program should be expanded, right? Actually, no, because the Sun only reported the Democratic version of the story and we can't depend upon a mainstream media outlet like the Sun to get the rest of the story." Well, the rest of the story is: "It turns out the Frost family sends its kids to one of Baltimore's expensive private schools, owns a house in a neighborhood of homes valued in the $400,000-500,000 range and bought commercial property in 1999 for $160,000." What's the upshot of all this? This is nothing new. The Democrats lie! They have to in order to make their case. What was seductive to them was that this young man and his sister were severely injured in an auto accident, and they didn't have private insurance. "That's all we needed. That's all. Just smear the president. That's all we needed. We don't need any other details, because we know that our buddies in the mainstream media are not going to uncover the details, and if they do uncover 'em, they're not going to report 'em -- and when they do get uncovered a couple weeks later, a day later, the story is already ours. We already own it."

So the bottom line for me is: they can't rely on truth to make their case for their cause. They have to lie. Be it about me, be it about their own voters (such as the Frosts) be it about President Bush, they must lie -- and anybody who stands in the way of their succeeding with that lie becomes an enemy, becomes a target. That's where I and my buddies in talk radio come in. We are a thorn in their side because we represent the truth they are trying to hide, the truth that they are lying about, and they have to do something about it -- and they have to do that by lying. The truth will not help 'em. The truth is inconvenient to today's Democrat Party and today's left. "Fiction" is their byword. Make it up. Make sure people cry about it. Have a lot of emotion attached to the fiction, and have no guilt about it. "Once you get past the lying, the rest is easy," is their philosophy. The kid, Graeme Frost, in one of his radio addresses, asked the question: "Why doesn't President Bush want children to have health care?" They send the kid out to lie. They filled this kid's head with lies just as they have some of these soldiers about me. Put lies in the kid's head or put it on the script that he's reading. He goes out and reads it. He's 12 years old! They will use anybody! They'll corrupt anybody, to get where they're headed. That's who they are, folks.


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KEYWORDS: 2008; baltimoresun; biglie; democraticparty; democratparty; democrats; drivebymedia; fakebutaccurate; fiction; freepers; freerepublic; frost; graemefrost; healthinsurance; liberalism; msm; nannystate; rushlimbaugh; schip
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To: DCPatriot

The father is probably got an LLC for himself, so that the income goes to to that entity, rather than directly to him as income.


81 posted on 10/08/2007 6:16:53 PM PDT by HonestConservative (Infidel)
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To: khnyny

But that is what the dimwits do isn’t it? Put a so called spotless”victim” out there that we are not permitted to criticize, Cleland, Mrs. Edwards et, al., to say indescribablely impossible things and we are supposed to be disallowed to respond.

Unfortunately for them, they can find no such animal. It doesn’t exist!


82 posted on 10/08/2007 6:30:39 PM PDT by HonestConservative (Infidel)
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To: HonestConservative

“Tiny Tim” Graeme Frost. The dems are pathetic.

The Foster’s are the poster family for why this program SCHIP should NOT be expanded. This story reminds me of the people in public housing in Fairfax, County VA that earn over $200,000 annually.


83 posted on 10/08/2007 6:38:52 PM PDT by khnyny (It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it..Aristotle)
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To: devolve

Ping, if you haven’t seen it!


84 posted on 10/08/2007 6:43:20 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: goldstategop

What is the purpose of the MSM if the average citizen can do a superior job?

IF it just their purpose to read us talking points without investigation or comment, why should they bother?

The fourth estate is dead. They sold out for a shrimp cocktail and a picture with a politician.


85 posted on 10/08/2007 6:43:50 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: DrewsDad; icwhatudo

Great work, icwhatudo!! Congratulations!!


86 posted on 10/08/2007 6:52:17 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: DocRock

Phony Soldiers In the March Towards Socialized Medicine!


87 posted on 10/08/2007 6:56:15 PM PDT by WOSG (I just wish freepers would bash Democrats as much as they bash Republicans)
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To: potlatch

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Thanks potlatch!

I email him thread links and post number links once in a while

Rush covered this well today


88 posted on 10/08/2007 7:00:37 PM PDT by devolve (---- -Secret_Asian_Man_&_Dr.No-No_Sorass_-)
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To: devolve

Good!


89 posted on 10/08/2007 7:02:56 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: WOSG
"Phony Soldiers In the March Towards Socialized Medicine!"

Nice headline... I'll use it if you don't mind.

90 posted on 10/08/2007 7:04:04 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 ... Go ahead, look it up!)
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To: OSHA

That was funny. One of them noted that they would attack Bush if he used a 12-year-old, and another said “yes, but we’d attack the parents, not the kids”.

Of course, nobody here’s attacking the kid, or the parents, just the democratic leadership. We are pointing out that the parents could pay for their own insurance.

But what’s really funny is that the Republicans didn’t want to cut teh SCHIP program, just not expand it. If the Dems passed Bush’s plan, these kids would still have gotten health insurance. They aren’t anywhere near the 82,000 limit of the Dems expanded plan.


91 posted on 10/08/2007 7:17:20 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: DocRock

Well, I used it myself already on my blog ... but you are free to reuse and link. :-)

http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/2007/10/phony-soldiers-for-socialized-medicine.html

Your reminders were too good to pass up.


92 posted on 10/08/2007 7:41:05 PM PDT by WOSG (I just wish freepers would bash Democrats as much as they bash Republicans)
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To: WOSG
I checked you blog, nice job. The video of Kerry at the 2004 DNC is hosted on my bandwidth and you have my permission to use it if you want.
93 posted on 10/08/2007 7:56:33 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 ... Go ahead, look it up!)
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To: goldstategop

Oh, maybe I could learn from this instead of being a dumb chump by paying for my own health insurance all these years I should buy anything but and ask my fellow hardworking taxpaying chumps pay for my health care. I get it...


94 posted on 10/08/2007 9:21:37 PM PDT by harpo11
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To: Garden Island

Ann Coulter said last night on Hannity and Colmes that it is all in the details!

The dims spin a story with half-truths, but when you ask and get to the details, you find out that as usual - they are lying about the story!

“It is all about the DETAILS”, as Ann said! (Just like in this story about the 12 yr old boy and his parents not being able to afford health care!)

What a surprise!
Ann is right - It is ALL about the details!

Hunter for President - ‘08
http://www.ontheissues.org/Duncan_Hunter_VoteMatch.htm


95 posted on 10/09/2007 3:37:09 AM PDT by Anita1 (Duncan Hunter for President in '08!! / Pro-life / Pro-border / Pro-American jobs / Strong Defense!))
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To: khnyny

WHO paid for BIRTHING the Frost’s FOUR Children??? Did they pay CASH during the pregnancies??? Who paid the huge cost of delivery??


96 posted on 10/09/2007 6:58:23 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

IRS...IRS...IRS....TAx Evasion ALERT!!


97 posted on 10/09/2007 6:59:42 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: Anita1

Yeah, but then they’ll spin it as “mean” conservatives attacking the “victims”.

Liberals are, and play to, the childish emotions of the pre-teen, where everything is viewed through the lens of “nice” or “mean”.


98 posted on 10/09/2007 6:59:58 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: goldstategop

When you own your business, you should never take much money in salary. Take as much as possible in shareholder distributions. Why? Because salary would be subject to employer taxes (social security taxes; employer share, as well as employee share). Its also taxed at regular income rates. By taking distributions in the form of dividends, or better yet, as capital gains, then you reduce your tax rate.

This guy may have a salary of $45,000, but what is he getting in dividends and other shareholder distributions?


99 posted on 10/09/2007 7:11:02 AM PDT by RayBob (If guns kill people, can I blame misspelled words on my keyboard?)
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To: sauropod

read


100 posted on 10/09/2007 8:10:07 AM PDT by sauropod ("Nobody has time for your priceless prose. Get to the point." - Jim Michaels RIP 2007)
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