------------------------------------------------Posted on 10/07/2007 8:38:24 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
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Hear, hear!!
Well, of course, not everyone is against him. Some FReepers are supporters.
We often hear the "surrender" thing, but that is misleading.
We also hear the "anti-semite" thing, but that is simply wrong.
Then there is the "looney" thing, for which nobody has offered an explaination.
IMO, if one has taken the time to examine Ron Paul's position, one finds that all of the above slurs simply do not hold up.
So you're right; we still don't know what has turned everyone against him.
Well, of course, not everyone is against him. Some FReepers are supporters.
We often hear the "surrender" thing, but that is misleading.
We also hear the "anti-semite" thing, but that is simply wrong.
Then there is the "looney" thing, for which nobody has offered an explaination.
IMO, if one has taken the time to examine Ron Paul's position, one finds that all of the above slurs simply do not hold up.
So you're right; we still don't know what has turned everyone against him.
A couple thousand young people here the Republican message of Freedom, Peace, and Prosperity at a Ron Paul rally on the USC campus.
Hundreds of people crowd to standing-room-only to hear Dr. Paul speak in Chicago.
Dr. Paul addresses a crowd of over 800 on a Saturday morning in New Hampshire.
Ron Paul addresses supporters in Iowa.
RP- The war in Iraq was sold to us with false information.
Ron Paul only seems interested in false information and not facts
RP- The area is more dangerous now than when we entered it.
Not true at all. The surge is working and we are mainly fighting Al Qaeda and foreign insurgents in Iraq.
RP- We destroyed a regime hated by our direct enemies, the jihadists, and created thousands of new recruits for them.
Not true at all. Al Qaeda and KSM had 3 separate training camps in Iraq before we invaded working with Iraqi intelligence.
RP- This war has cost more than 3,000 American lives, thousands of seriously wounded, and hundreds of billions of dollars.
How much did all of these cost America?
Iran Hostage Crisis, November 4, 1979
Bombing of U.S. Embassy in Beirut, April 18, 1983
Bombing of Marine Barracks, Beirut, October 23, 1983
TWA Hijacking, June 14, 1985
Pan Am 103 Bombing December 21, 1988
Attempted Iraqi Attacks on U.S. Posts January 18-19, 1991
World Trade Center Bombing, February 26, 1993
Attempted Assassination of President Bush by Iraqi Agents April 14, 1993
U.S. Embassy Bombings in East Africa, August 7, 1998
Attack on U.S.S. Cole, October 12, 2000
Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Homeland, September 11, 2001,
Are you assuming all those terrorist attacks just came out of the blue?
Have you considered what has been driving our foreign policy for the past 80 or so years? IMO, when looking at something like our foreign policy, we should consider the historical aspects of it and not just the latest developments.
By concentrating on only the latest dozen or so terrorist activities, you may lose track of the big picture, and the real enemy.
Wow! cut to the chase! That's it right there!
Bumping for that one!
Maybe we need to start asking the bashers what their personal stake is in a gi-normous government.
Why are people that are supporting Big Government (liberals) supporting Ron Pauls views on Iraq?
Man, look at all them Neo-Nazis, skinheads, potheads, hippies, and Code Pink truthers in the audiences. Wow. I have never seen that many before. < /Projectile Sarcasm >
How do you know they're still supporting Big Gov't? Maybe they did some research and decided socialism isn't so great after all. And they also know that the Dims have no credibility on the war either. Even though Paul is somewhat wrong on the war at least he ain't jiving nobody.
EEE in post #94 has a very good point, and one that I can understand completely.
As far as I know, the FReepers who are saying that probably don't know for sure anyway.
IMO, many people are either mixed up or fooled by the hype coming out of the MSM, and really couldn't identify with any particular "movement". Most Americans, however are conservative to their soul, and already know what is right and what is wrong. Due to all the BS in the "popular media", they simply haven't had any good examples of "right" lately.
I'm sure many folks who routinely vote for dummycrats would not advocate for abortion, drugs, STD's, unmarried childbirth, loss of freedom, and loss of our national sovreignty, but have grown kind of numb over the years because they don't see a way out of it.
Until now.
Now there is at last a genuine alternative, and folks are getting excited.
If it is any consolation to you, I too think he is wrong about bringing our troops home right away if that means leaving Iraq in turmoil, but I support him anyway for all the other issues.
No quarrel there. Perhaps, too, they never envisioned that we would ever count the British among our allies, either.
Yes, I think Paul is wrong on foreign policy. We can’t pull out of this war, even though that’s what I desperately want to do. I want to win more, though.
We have already won, if you consider the original three objectives; depose Saddam Hussein, (did that), find/disable any weapons of "mass destruction" (did that), and allow the Iraquis to engage in free elections (the dreaded "D" word). We did all of those things, but apparently our military is now caught in a situation known as "mission creep".
The truth is, nobody knows how much more fighting we have to do there. Nobody has been able to tell me how we will even know when we have "won" again.
There is no forseeable end to the fighting, and for some unexplained reason, it falls largely to the United States military to keep on fighting.
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