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A Mormon in the Oval Office?
Washington Post ^ | October 4, 2007 | Robert Novak

Posted on 10/04/2007 9:40:06 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

When Mitt Romney appeared last week (via closed circuit from California) before the Council of Retired Chief Executives meeting in Washington, he faced kindred souls: rich Republicans who had managed big enterprises. Yet the second question from the audience was whether Romney's Mormon faith was hurting his quest for the Republican presidential nomination. He replied that about the only people who brought up his religion were members of the media, an answer that simply is untrue.

Romney is asked about Mormonism wherever he goes. In my travels, I find his religious preference cited everywhere as the source of opposition to his candidacy. His response to the former chief executives that only reporters care about this issue sounded like a politician's tired evasion. Romney was either too obtuse to appreciate his problem or was stalling because he had not determined how to deal with it. Contact with his advisers indicates that it's the latter.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: christianjihadis; elections; electionspresident; mormon; novak; romney
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To: Semperfiwife

“It will be very hard to have a President who wears “underwear” with a Pentagram on it to represent the evangelical Christians in America.”

Intelligent fair-minded statements about Mormons are few and far between.

I wish FR were a place where civil intelligent discussions could take place . . . but I guess it’s too much to ask.


61 posted on 10/04/2007 10:58:27 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!!!)
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To: Greg F

Has it occurred to you that you may be the lost soul? I find it funny that we are all so sure the other guy is wrong when many of us aren’t sure we are right!


62 posted on 10/04/2007 10:58:38 AM PDT by Skenderbej
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To: Reaganesque
Maybe you don’t discuss your Mormon underwear but I just google it and 46,100 discussions (with pictures), so somebody is talking.
63 posted on 10/04/2007 10:58:44 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Colofornian

Can’t argue with what you say but as far as I know, Thomas Jefferson was a Deist as were some of the other Founding Fathers and thus, not a member of any organized Religion.


64 posted on 10/04/2007 10:58:54 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Bobkk47

You heard him on his flop, but he first flipped and you apparently missed that or have chosen to ignore it (flipped off Rush proving his lack of discernment because he first accept what the democrat operatives lied about what Rush said).


65 posted on 10/04/2007 10:59:01 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Defend life support for others in the womb.)
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To: broncobilly
It cuts both ways, you know. I was talking to a Mormon the other day who said if Romney is eliminated because he is a Mormon, he will never again vote for an Evangelical.

Well, then you can sick the "if-Evangelicals-won't-vote-for-ANY-Republican-that's-passes-for-a-Republican-nominee-then-you've-just-elected-XYZ" browbeaters & arm-twisters crowd on that person.

You know that line almost sounds like a common "shake down" tactic that local bully-gangs and certain national pit-one-race-vs.-another-race celebrities use to coerce support. (Not very becoming, to say the least)

66 posted on 10/04/2007 10:59:01 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

What about Deists?


67 posted on 10/04/2007 10:59:48 AM PDT by GunRunner (Thompson 2008 - Security, Unity, Prosperity)
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To: MEGoody
>i>I'm an evangelical, and I would vote for a Mormon if his positions on the issues matched mine.

Well, say Hallelujah!"

68 posted on 10/04/2007 11:01:26 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: greyfoxx39; colorcountry; Elsie

All he has to do is get himself ex-communicated.(repent and join back up after his defeat) Ahhhh the empathy and sympathy from the masses and MSM.


69 posted on 10/04/2007 11:01:38 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Sanctimony: Feigned piety or righteousness; hypocritical devoutness.)
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To: Reaganesque
I don't understand why pentagrams on your underwear would be offensive to you. You have them on in plain sight on your Temple (even if they aren't the masoic symbols that are stitched on your navel, and nipples.


70 posted on 10/04/2007 11:02:41 AM PDT by colorcountry (If the plain sense makes sense, seek no other sense, lest you get nonsense! ~ J. Vernon McGee)
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles
And they should be ashamed of themselves for it. It’s just pure bigotry against Mormons.

So LDS who vote for LDS candidates primarily or only because of the LDS connection are operating on "pure bigotry," too, eh? (Are you consistent?)

71 posted on 10/04/2007 11:03:03 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Bobkk47
That’s funny, I heard Mitt on Hugh Hewitt last night clearly refuting what Media Matters put out and clearly defending Rush.

That's now. Five days ago, he criticized Rush: http://www.blogrunner.com/snapshot/D/2/3/romney_criticizes_limbaugh/

What's really ironic is that Media Matters has targetted Mitt, too. You'd think that given that fact, ol' Mitt would have taken their spin with a grain of salt, if not the whole shaker. The fact that he didn't does not reflect well on his "reasoning" skills.

I'm sure there was some significant blowblack, so now Mitt's spinning a different tune. This doesn't convince me, he's just doing (and tried to do in the first place) what's politically expedient. Can you say "slick," but just not that good at it? Definitely not Presidential material.

PS I would vote for him over sHrillary. Then again, I'd vote for a gerbil over sHrillary...

72 posted on 10/04/2007 11:03:40 AM PDT by piytar
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To: Colofornian

You know this whole “I’m not voting for (fill in the blank) because he doesn’t believe in “my” God or he belongs to a “cult”, is pretty ridiculous.

I thought after Jack Kennedy was elected, this “religious test” for candidates was not an issue any more.


73 posted on 10/04/2007 11:04:26 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: GunRunner
What about Deists?

While there were a handful of deists among the founding fathers, they weren't really an organized faith body. (They were more independent--what you might call spiritual libertarians). Certainly if they believed in a "hands-off" God, then they weren't going to become too "hands-on" re: organized religion.

74 posted on 10/04/2007 11:06:01 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Reaganesque

I don’t talk to anyone except my wife whether I wear boxers or briefs...well and I guess the checkout person at the store knows too. It’s not other peoples business. I don’t know what the fascination with what kind of underwear LDS wear.


75 posted on 10/04/2007 11:08:24 AM PDT by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: Colofornian
While there were a handful of deists among the founding fathers, they weren't really an organized faith body.

That basically, in part, defines what Deism is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism
77 posted on 10/04/2007 11:11:01 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: greyfoxx39

I wonder why a Mormon in the Senate or House is not an issue? There are 16 of them, five senators, 10 House members and one delegate. Four of them are democrats, including Harry Reid. Novak is full of crap.


78 posted on 10/04/2007 11:12:06 AM PDT by kabar
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To: GunRunner

He did attend Church throughout his life (I think) . . . not as much in Washington because it is such a to do for a President to go to church. Disrupts the congregation. He wrote and spoke a lot about it; he certainly didn’t hide that he was a Christian.

I don’t even know what the label evangelical really means. Every Christian is told in the Bible to evangelize. So every Christian is evangelical. Every Christian is born again (same thing — Christ said we must all be born again when he spoke to Nicodemus). Most people think of themselves as Presbyterian, or Baptist, or Catholic, or Pentacostal . . .


79 posted on 10/04/2007 11:12:13 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: ansel12

Careful elder!


80 posted on 10/04/2007 11:12:30 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Sanctimony: Feigned piety or righteousness; hypocritical devoutness.)
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