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Tutankhamun was not black: Egypt antiquities chief
AFP ^ | September 25, 2007

Posted on 09/26/2007 11:58:41 AM PDT by presidio9

Egyptian antiquities supremo Zahi Hawass insisted Tuesday that Tutankhamun was not black despite calls by US black activists to recognise the boy king's dark skin colour.

"Tutankhamun was not black, and the portrayal of ancient Egyptian civilisation as black has no element of truth to it," Hawass told reporters.

"Egyptians are not Arabs and are not Africans despite the fact that Egypt is in Africa," he said, quoted by the official MENA news agency.

Hawass said he was responding to several demonstrations in Philadelphia after a lecture he gave there on September 6 where he defended his theory.

Protestors also claimed images of King Tut were altered to show him with lighter skin at the "Tutankhamun and the Golden Age of the Pharaohs" exhibit which leaves Philadelphia for London on September 30.

The exhibition sparked an uproar when it kicked off in Los Angeles in June 2005 when black activists demanded that a bust of the boy king be removed because the statue portrays him as white.

The face of the legendary pharaoh, who died around 3,300 years ago at the age of just 19, was reconstructed in 2005 through images collected through CAT scans of his mummy.

The boy king's intact tomb caused an international sensation when it was discovered by Briton Howard Carter in 1922 near Luxor in southern Egypt.


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To: chaosagent
If Egyptians were black, who were the Nubians?

Why, the descendants of the Oldbians, of course!

21 posted on 09/26/2007 12:13:36 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: presidio9

Egypt was the first great cosmopolitan society, drawing in different peoples from all over the middle east over 1,000s of years.

Given the proximity of Egypt to ancient Nubia (Sudan) there is little doubt that people of the Negroid race migrated to Egypt and lived there as well, along with other peoples and people who were long there before those migrations.

However, claiming a pure “racial” identity back then to ancient Egypt would be like claiming one for the US today and by most accounts the Negroid component was less than it is in the US today.

Modern history has continued to redefine “Egyptian”, due to Greek, Roman and eventually Arab and Muslim conquerors who supplied their own additions to the Egyptian population. The majority of Egypt today is said to be, genetically, semitic, in the same family as most “Arabs” and Jews.


22 posted on 09/26/2007 12:13:43 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: presidio9
Guess we need to break the news to them about Cleopatra being a Ptolemy.
23 posted on 09/26/2007 12:14:30 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: chaosagent

The Nubians were the people living just south of Egypt.They were also known as Kushites.
Fact is that there was quite a bit of intermingling between Egypt and Nubia throughout history.
And if you have ever seen a picture of Tut’s mom,Queen Tiy,there is not much doubt to me that she is quite”Negroid”in features.
Its absurd to say Egypt was completely white,black or Arab.They were as mixed ethnically as you can possibly get.


24 posted on 09/26/2007 12:14:36 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: presidio9

The mummies of the Pharoahs have been around long enough to be studied over and over. The face of Tut, the face of Ramses...they were not Black. Their skin was darkened in the mummification process, but they were not Black.


25 posted on 09/26/2007 12:15:31 PM PDT by mak5
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To: Clock King
There's plenty of real history, as you say, to be had in West Africa, where the ancestors of most black Americans originated, without making up nonsense.

It's sort of like the folks who came from honest Scottish farmers (as I did, mostly) having to invent themselves some made-up tartan pattern and kinship with Bonnie Prince Charlie (who was actually half Polish, one quarter Italian, and the rest mostly French and Danish). It's usually harmless, but in the case of some of these activists I think it's crossed the line.

26 posted on 09/26/2007 12:16:30 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Loser
'Tut is black' protesters...

27 posted on 09/26/2007 12:18:06 PM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: oh8eleven

“He gave his life for tourism.”


28 posted on 09/26/2007 12:19:33 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean THEY aren't out to get you...)
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To: presidio9

Of course they are African ... were born on the continent of Africa. Just because you were born on the continent of Africa does not mean your skin color is black.


29 posted on 09/26/2007 12:20:05 PM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Riverman94610
The parentage of Tiye has been determined by recent scholarship (2006) to be Egyptian, not Nubian.

Another myth exploded.

30 posted on 09/26/2007 12:20:12 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Spok
Two very prominent Roman generals were conversing when one of them, who came from an old Patrician family, told the other, a man of humble beginnings; “If you only had a family tree, you’d have everything.” To which the other general replied “That’s the difference between us-you’re at the bottom of your family tree; I’m at the top of mine.”

I remember reading long ago (I'm 45 years out of college) what must be essentially the same story. The version I read went: Old Patrician: "Your low birth puts you beneath me". Young General: The differance between my birth and yours is that your family ends with you, while mine begins with me!

That story has been very helpful to me at times through the years.

31 posted on 09/26/2007 12:21:02 PM PDT by FairWitness
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To: chaosagent

Many of the Nubians were slaves of the Egyptians. I attended the King Tut exhibit in Philadelphia. One of the items shown was a black Nubian walking stick, with a Nubian form bent backwards as the handle.


32 posted on 09/26/2007 12:21:58 PM PDT by kabar
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

“He’s got a condo made of stone-a.”


33 posted on 09/26/2007 12:22:35 PM PDT by bigcat32
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To: Wuli

Shh... you’re not supposed to mention the semitic family and the Arab and Jewish connection.

The uneducated will be confused.


34 posted on 09/26/2007 12:23:38 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: svcw

Cue the old joke about Charlize Theron being the first African American to win an Oscar for "Best Actress"...

35 posted on 09/26/2007 12:24:41 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

Or Terayza potentially being our first African-American First Lady.


36 posted on 09/26/2007 12:25:32 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife; Wuli

Actually, it’s always confused me how an arab can be antisemitic. Are we talking self-loathing or something.


37 posted on 09/26/2007 12:26:51 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9
"Egyptians are not Arabs and are not Africans despite the fact that Egypt is in Africa,"

Well, they are Africans, since they lived and continue to live in Africa. They weren't and aren't primarily sub-Saharan or black Africans, though.

Quite honestly, I don't believe there are very many people of whatever ethnicity today who are entitled to boast about the accomplishments or culture of the ancient Egyptians. Modern Egyptians turned their backs on that civilization with their embrace of Islam and other religions. And it makes about as much sense for a person originating from West Africa to lay claim to ancient Egypt as it does for an Irishman to claim ancient Athens as his heritage.
38 posted on 09/26/2007 12:28:44 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: presidio9
Egyptian antiquities supremo Zahi Hawass insisted Tuesday that Tutankhamun was not black

Of course he wasn't.

Who was ever gullible enough to believe such tripe in the first place?

- John

39 posted on 09/26/2007 12:29:35 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: presidio9
RACISTS !

Shaptoon and Jesse Jackass are probably on a plane headed for Egypt to assemble protesters to accuse the study group of "Racism" and "taking away our heritage".

40 posted on 09/26/2007 12:30:48 PM PDT by traditional1 ( Fred Thompson-The ONLY electable Republican Candidate)
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