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Teens Held Without Bond in Girl's Slaying (hate crime?)
WRAL Web Site ^ | 9/25/2007 | Bryan Mims

Posted on 09/25/2007 2:22:23 PM PDT by Jack Black

Teens Held Without Bond in Girl's Slaying

Carthage — Tight security surrounds three teens charged with killing a 12-year-old girl in her Moore County home last week.

Van Roger Smith Jr., 16, Sherrod Nicholas Harrison, 19, and Michael Graham Currie, 18, all of Cameron, have been charged with first-degree murder and breaking and entering in the death of Emily Elizabeth Haddock. Emily was dead Friday in her home on Marks Road outside of Vass, authorities said.

She had stayed home from school with strep throat and was alone when someone broke into the house and, surprised to find someone inside, shot her several times with a .22-caliber handgun, authorities said. Two of the teens lived on Marks Road about six miles from the Haddock home.

Harnett County authorities located a stolen .22-caliber handgun on Monday in a car with stolen plates in the Carolina Hills area of the county. The gun had been stolen last Thursday from a home, and authorities said it might be the weapon used in the slaying. Perry Ross Schiro, 19, of Cameron, was charged with burglary, larceny and possession of stolen property in connection with the gun.

One of the three teens charged in the slaying also is considered a "person of interest" in an attempted break-in last Friday about a mile from the Haddock home, authorities said. The three teens made their first court appearance Tuesday morning and were appointed attorneys.

A bond hearing is scheduled for Wednesday in District Court, but authorities have declined to disclose the time of the hearing for security reason. The teens were being held without bond Tuesday in the Moore County Detention Center.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: crime; hatecrime; murder; race
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To: Jack Black
Your scenario sounds believable, but if the girl had been a 12 year old black girl would they have still killed her? I suspect that hatred of whites contributed to the utter contempt they showed for the life of this poor girl.

Of course not because as we all know, black-on-black crime is practically unheard of.

21 posted on 09/25/2007 2:44:35 PM PDT by LWalk18
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To: Jack Black
From Heather MacDonald:

“The reason that the black incarceration rate is the highest in the country is that blacks have the highest crime rate—by a long shot. Don’t trust the police, prosecutors, or judges to give a fair picture of black crime? Then go where the bodies are. Los Angeles is representative. In the first seven months of 2007, blacks in Los Angeles were murdered at a rate ten times that of whites and Asians. Who’s killing them? It’s not whites and Asians. While a minor proportion of the assailants of blacks are Hispanic, the vast majority are black themselves. Nationally, blacks commit murder at about eight times the frequency of whites. In New York, any given violent crime is 13 times more likely to have been committed by a black person than by a white person, according to the reports of victims and witnesses. Though they are only 24 percent of the city’s population, blacks committed 68.5 percent of all murders, rapes, robberies, and assaults in New York last year. Whites, who make up 34.5 percent of New Yorkers, committed only 5.3 percent of violent crimes. These ratios are similar across the country. In Los Angeles, blacks committed 41 percent of all robberies in 2001, according to victims’ descriptions, though they constitute only 11 percent of the city’s population. Robbery victims identified whites, who make up 30 percent of the Los Angeles population, just 4 percent of the time.”

Her article on the “Jena 6” and race relations in America is available at City Journal and well worth your time:

http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon2007-09-24hm.html

22 posted on 09/25/2007 2:44:37 PM PDT by mojito
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To: Jack Black
One of the three teens charged in the slaying also is considered a "person of interest" in an attempted break-in last Friday about a mile from the Haddock home,

Once again, we need to start putting these scum away. Cops and juries don't take "non-violent" crimes seriously enough. I'd bet $100 no one dusted for prints or otherwise thoroughly investigated the attempted break-in. Impossible to say, but had they pursued that case with vigor and shaken the trees sufficiently, maybe the perps would have laid low (or possibly have been caught) and not attempted another break-in, and the girl would still be alive.

23 posted on 09/25/2007 2:44:44 PM PDT by JTHomes
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To: DoughtyOne
That being said, I do not think the evidence points to this being a killing based on race. No, it was a murder that was deemed necessary to cover up a burglery.

Probably correct. Unfortunately, there seem to be a lot of FReepers lately who are itching to find a racial aspect to any crime -- it almost seems like they have a "revenge" motive.

Pretty ugly way to act, imo....

24 posted on 09/25/2007 2:44:45 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Jack Black

At 12, had my daughter been home alone, she would have access to several firearms, and the skill to use them properly.
It may be a shame to raise kids as warriors, but in a world full of barbarians I see no other choice.


25 posted on 09/25/2007 2:45:14 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Jack Black

“Are these incidents becoming more common?”

Ask yourself why during the sixties the media unanimously,and spontaneously decided to start leaving out the race of criminals and victims.


26 posted on 09/25/2007 2:45:19 PM PDT by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets.)
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To: BearCub

I don’t argue with you based on the law, but I certainly do on the basis of the serious nature of the crime and this kids willing involvement. Fry him. The girl won’t get a second chance. Hell no, that he should get one.


27 posted on 09/25/2007 2:45:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: Jack Black

Look like very clean cut Magic Negroes, similar to Osama bin Obama. I’m sure they are merely the victims of an unjust Republican society that has inflicted racial hatred and poverty upon them for centuries. They are obviously NOT responsible for their actions. Rather it us, the cruel conservatives of this world, who have kept these fine young men crushed under the boot heel of a racist America! I say free the Vass 3! Allow them to party with the Jena 6!


28 posted on 09/25/2007 2:45:50 PM PDT by Doc Savage (I have a fever,... and the only cure is more cowbell...)
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To: Jack Black

Jack, if black crime was primarily black on white, I’d have more sympathy for your arguement. In light of what takes place all the time, I don’t doubt at all that these kids would gun down one of their own under the same circumstances.

I don’t think your comments are unreasonable, I just have to disagree.


29 posted on 09/25/2007 2:47:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: Jack Black

This is obviously not a hate crime and probably would not be persecuted as such were the race of the Victim and perps reversed.

This was a robbery gone bad they did not enter to kill a while person they thought they were going into an empty home.

Be careful not to fall into the trap of acting like those race pims Jackson and Sharpton who would be screaming hate crime were the situation reversed..


30 posted on 09/25/2007 2:48:38 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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To: Jack Black

I think the leaders of minority hate groups keep stirring things up to keep the money flowing in.

Just because I think that illegals create more problems than they are worth, it doesn’t mean I hate all other minorities.
I AM a minority, now, here in California.

Sure, there are still individuals that maintain the old hatreds. But, most of us do not go looking for someone to hate, like in the KKK days.

I don’t know if it was a hate crime. It doesn’t matter. She is still dead. It was just a stupid crime, because those kids haven’t been taught any better than to take what they want, and murder to try and cover it up.

My heart goes out to the families involved, not just the girl’s family. All of these kids need a mother at home, and a father to lead the family.

Seems to be difficult to find these days.


31 posted on 09/25/2007 2:48:47 PM PDT by wizr (A step in Faith will set you free.)
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To: r9etb
sure its racial.....they didn't go to just any neighborhood to rob...they went to a white neighborhood.....they targeted white houses.....

its not that I like the idea of "hate" crimes, but if the blacks are going to use it , so can the whites....

32 posted on 09/25/2007 2:48:52 PM PDT by cherry
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To: r9etb

I think I know where you are coming from, and based on that I agree.


33 posted on 09/25/2007 2:49:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: r9etb

I am not seeking revenge on anyone. I’m sorry if you find my posting or comments ugly. I find the situation ugly. I think there is an obvious racial component of much crime today - but it’s the issue we are not allowed to discuss without being called racist.

Again, I’m not suggesting that the killers sought out a girl of a different race to kill, but that stumbling on her I suspect it was far easier to do because of the racial divide that still exists in the USA.


34 posted on 09/25/2007 2:51:30 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: mafree; trumandogz; Saberwielder

ping for another case that will require justice


35 posted on 09/25/2007 2:51:54 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: N3WBI3

Thanks. I just put a few recent news storys up with that question to spawn discussion, give the Jena 6 situation.

I guess my final take is that I don’t like “hate crime” laws because it is immaterial. Punish the action, not the imputed thougts behind them.

Whether or not they had a racist bone in their bodies, the killers still shot this little girl. In the end, that’s all the crime that we need to make it a tragedy and to describe their punishment.

Hate crime laws divdide us, because it requries the law to get into someone’s brain. And we can’t do that, opinions and views always differ.


36 posted on 09/25/2007 2:55:29 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Enterprise
Reporting is getting better.

Not better, but more focussed. Anything to keep Hsu off of the front page.

37 posted on 09/25/2007 2:55:44 PM PDT by webheart
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To: N3WBI3
This is obviously not a hate crime and probably would not be persecuted as such were the race of the Victim and perps reversed. This was a robbery gone bad they did not enter to kill a while person they thought they were going into an empty home.

I disagree. They could have just ran out. That little girl was no threat to them. They thought so little of that 12 year old girl that they would rather kill her than allow her to possibly ID them. This indicates a pathological level of hate.

38 posted on 09/25/2007 2:56:47 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: Cicero
Re: 10

Good synopsis.
You reap what you have sown; and we have sown exactly what you highlighted.
A culture of victimization, of government dependency, and some twisted myth that all things evil are to be laid on the doorstep of Western Civilization.

We need to reinvigorate the land with Truth. There is an accountability before the Almighty God, and Western Civilization was uncommonly blessed because, for a time, it carried the Banner of Christ. We suffer from national amnesia (or brainwashing), and judge people by their affiliations rather than actions.

39 posted on 09/25/2007 2:57:14 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Cicero

You are so right. It was back in the 1960’s that I was in a very racial mixed school. The black kids were told by their parents that the white kids “owed” them and would ask for money from you before you got in line to buy a snack or something. The learning of the ‘shake down” was going on way back then.

That is why the hate is there. You don’t have to do anything to get jumped and beat up. I witnessed such goings on way back then. I know better.

If anything the liberals are to blame for this situation and allowing it to get this bad in the first place. But noooo, they continue to make things worse instead.


40 posted on 09/25/2007 2:57:51 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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