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NYT editor slams paper over 'General Betray Us' ad
CNN ^ | September 23, 2007 | CNN staff

Posted on 09/23/2007 3:06:32 PM PDT by Baladas

CNN) -- The public editor for The New York Times slammed his employer Sunday in a column, saying the newspaper violated its policies by cutting MoveOn.org a deal on a controversial ad criticizing the top U.S. military commander in Iraq.

Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, was the target of an ad questioning his integrity.

"I think the ad violated The Times' own written standards, and the paper now says that the advertiser got a price break it was not entitled to," wrote Clark Hoyt, who analyzes the newspaper's coverage as the "readers' representative."

The public editor works outside of the reporting and editing structure of the newspaper, and Hoyt's column states that his opinions and conclusions are his own.

"The Times bends over backward to accommodate advocacy ads, including ads from groups with which the newspaper disagrees editorially," he added.

Hoyt based his assertion about an alleged violation of the standards of The New York Times on "an internal advertising acceptability manual" that he quoted as saying, "We do not accept opinion advertisements that are attacks of a personal nature."

Clinton said he believed that the GOP was trying to turn the nation's attention to the ad so it can avoid answering questions about U.S. policy in Iraq. She also slammed the Bush attacks on Cleland and Kerry, both of whom were military men before going to Capitol Hill.

"I thought it was pretty sorry when his campaign attacked Senator Kerry's record of service, and I thought it was pretty sorry when the Republicans attacked Senator Cleland," she said. "I don't condone attacks by anyone on the patriotism and service of our military. I am an admirer of General Petraeus."

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: ads; clarkhoyt; moveon; nyt; petraeus
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Hillary's respone is just awful - she claims now to admire someone she's publicaly called a liar? Can't have it both ways.
1 posted on 09/23/2007 3:06:44 PM PDT by Baladas
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Hillary's respone is just awful - she claims now to admire someone she's publicaly called a liar? Can't have it both ways

Agreed. And the media's response is astonishing.

On Meet the Press she implied she voted IN FAVOR of denouncing the MoveOn.Org character assassination ad. That sanctimonious fraud Tim Russert did not expose her flaming lie.

The 2008 campaign will be replay of her Senate campaigns in NY: the media will never ask a single tough question. Softballs, propaganda, and deceit is all you will get from the media.

2 posted on 09/23/2007 3:15:25 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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She said “willing suspension of disbelief” to his face in the hearings. That’s calling him a liar. I don’t care what the meaning of the word is is.


3 posted on 09/23/2007 3:17:41 PM PDT by samtheman
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Senator Kerry's record of service

Critiques of fiction writing have never been forbidden.

4 posted on 09/23/2007 3:17:42 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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Ahh, captain obvious strikes.. and Hillary will skate on her comments.. The press want her to win.


5 posted on 09/23/2007 3:20:18 PM PDT by tje
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“I think the ad violated The Times’ own written standards, and the paper now says that the advertiser got a price break it was not entitled to,” wrote Clark Hoyt”

They’ll never forgive him for that. The left is totally intolerant of differences of opinion.


6 posted on 09/23/2007 3:20:52 PM PDT by dsc (There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men. Edmund Burke)
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Clinton said he believed that the GOP was trying to turn the nation's attention to the ad so it can avoid answering questions about U.S. policy in Iraq. She also slammed the Bush attacks on Cleland and Kerry

Poorly written, in that Clinton (?) is never mentioned earlier in the article.

The writer also seems not to know whether to refer to Hillary as a 'he' or a 'she', but perhaps this can be understood...

7 posted on 09/23/2007 3:22:38 PM PDT by mikrofon (Welcome to FredRepublic)
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"NYT editor slams paper over 'General Betray Us' ad"

After a week of denying special treatment or any biased agenda?

Our pastor preached on this very topic this morning. "The truth will set you free." Take a lesson, NYT.

8 posted on 09/23/2007 3:24:00 PM PDT by tom h
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`*****Can’t have it both ways*****

Sounds like kerry in 2004. Both clinton and kerry went to the same schools.

9 posted on 09/23/2007 3:24:32 PM PDT by GOPologist (When one lowers himself to argue with a fool, then you don't know which one is the fool.)
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On Meet the Press she implied she voted IN FAVOR of denouncing the MoveOn.Org character assassination ad. That sanctimonious fraud Tim Russert did not expose her flaming lie.

If this is true, they both need to be called on it. I do not watch fat faced Tim... But, if it went down as you said, that's a bald faced lie and she needs to be called on it.
10 posted on 09/23/2007 3:25:25 PM PDT by tje
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To: Baladas

The only place for Hillary is jail.


11 posted on 09/23/2007 3:25:33 PM PDT by freekitty (May the eagles long fly over our beautiful and free American sky.)
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Clinton said he believed that the GOP was trying to turn the nation's attention to the ad so it can avoid answering questions about U.S. policy in Iraq.

Actually, the GOP was trying to turn the nations attention BACK to General Petraeus who was in Washington to answer questions about US Military Policy in Iraq.

12 posted on 09/23/2007 3:27:32 PM PDT by digger48
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THE TIMES HAS STANDARDS????? My ass. They are simply a liberal talking and printing wing of the Marxist Dimocrat People’s Abortion Approving Faggot Approving Socialist People With Their Hands Stuck Out For Freebies Party.


13 posted on 09/23/2007 3:27:38 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (I am sick & tired of all political parties. They fight over everything and do nothing for the USA)
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This is a show biz stunt. This guy probably had his “statement” pre-approved.


14 posted on 09/23/2007 3:28:55 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Union work: comparable value for twice the price.)
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“The Times bends over backward to accommodate advocacy ads, including ads from groups with which the newspaper disagrees editorially,”

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BULL...SH*T!!!

They only bend over for DemoLibSocialist groups.
And THAT they do on a daily basis, with their “news” coverage to their opinions as well as in their ad policies.


15 posted on 09/23/2007 3:30:06 PM PDT by DGHoodini
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ding ding ding we have a winner!

My international relations professor makesus read the times every class day. When I asked to read the wall street journal or something which doesn’t make me retch every third paragraph she refused outright.

Its going to be a long semester.


16 posted on 09/23/2007 3:38:43 PM PDT by utherdoul
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To: FormerACLUmember
She did vote in favor of denouncing the ad but the resolution she voted for failed because the Republicans voted against it, because it did not denounce Moveon.org. The Republicans then introduced another resolution that included the denouncination of Moveon.org which Hillary voted against along with 24 other DemRats.

She can claim she voted for it before she voted against it Kerryesque! And she will say that she voted for it at every opportunity she gets and the MSM will never call her on it!

17 posted on 09/23/2007 3:41:36 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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>>>My international relations professor makesus read the times every class day. When I asked to read the wall street journal or something which doesn’t make me retch every third paragraph she refused outright. Its going to be a long semester.<<<

Ever thought about the sports page? ;)


18 posted on 09/23/2007 3:44:44 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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She can claim she voted for it before she voted against it Kerryesque! And she will say that she voted for it at every opportunity she gets and the MSM will never call her on it!

Amazing! And no one in the Drive By Media will ever call her on her dishonesty.

They are 90% democrats anyway, many of them democrat party propagandists, former employess of the democrat party masquarading as reporters. (Think vermin like Russert, Matthews, Moyers, ad nauseum)

19 posted on 09/23/2007 3:47:21 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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Hillary's respone is just awful - she claims now to admire someone she's publicaly called a liar? Can't have it both ways

Sure she can....if our side doesn't bring this up every chance they get, she will indeed have it both ways.

Our side BLOWS when it comes to calling the rats on their crap.

20 posted on 09/23/2007 3:50:35 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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