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The party's over for American consumers
Seattle Times ^ | Sept. 15, 2007 | Froma Harrop

Posted on 09/15/2007 2:24:18 PM PDT by AuntB

The new numbers on consumer confidence are out. They show American consumers very confident that the economy is going down the tubes.

Over in Asia and Europe, stocks plunged on fears that Americans may no longer be able to find the second jobs and recklessly borrow the money needed to buy imported stuff. Economists now freely use the "recession" word following the report that American payrolls fell in August, the first monthly decline in four years.

American consumers, in other words, are all dried up. And the discussion has begun on what kind of baloney economy kept them lubricated for so long.......

Of course, some professions thrive in tough economic times. Business should be brisk for bankruptcy lawyers. And we will need auctioneers to help unload foreclosed properties........

Today's "partying," he said, would lead to tomorrow's "hangover."

So here we are: The partygoers have downed a bottle and still they can avoid a hangover.

A recent article on the Motley Fool's British Web site offered "Five Ways to Prepare for a Recession." The prescriptions: Don't make big luxury purchases you can't pay for with cash. Build an emergency fund. Live more frugally. Reduce your debt. Find more work.

All sound advice, but consumers had better act fast — like five years ago.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: consumerconfidence; consumers; doomage; economy; freshcarrion; fromaharrop; producers; savings; spenders; spending; stockmarket; trade; vulturegram
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Few want to admit this ominous fact.

"The problem is clear: This isn't a nation of savers. In the past two years, America's personal savings rate reached its lowest level since the Great Depression. And in comparison to other industrialized countries, the United States ranked second to last in personal savings."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118964627975525938.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Salt Lake Tribune, United States - Sep 2, 2007 Americans have coped with their declining pay by going deeper in debt: The personal savings rate has been at the lowest level since the Great Depression. ...

Inland Valley Daily Bulletin, CA - Sep 12, 2007 Add to that the fact that the US has had a negative savings rate recently for the first time since the Great Depression, and it's ominous. ...

1 posted on 09/15/2007 2:24:20 PM PDT by AuntB
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To: AuntB

Who would be pushing for a recession right before an election? Hmmmmmm....


2 posted on 09/15/2007 2:27:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (https://www.fred08.com/contribute.aspx?RefererID=c637caaa-315c-4b4c-9967-08d864cd0791)
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To: AuntB
Good grief. This "journalist" writes like she's cracking open the champagne.
3 posted on 09/15/2007 2:28:29 PM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: AuntB

Seattle Times, a bastion of liberal thinking if there ever was.

The economy is made up of Americans, we can make it grow or shriknas we want. Be positive in yourself and what you do. Work hard, do your best and the economy will grow.


4 posted on 09/15/2007 2:28:45 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: AuntB
It's more like a self-fufilling-procephy. This economy is not going in the tank. Period. The Clinton economic disaster was based on blue sky and thin air, this one is grounded in a far greater percentage of real assets.

These stories are only about how the dimwits need a depression/disaster to win in 08. Nothing more, nothing less.

5 posted on 09/15/2007 2:29:25 PM PDT by xcamel (FDT/2008 -- talk about it >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Who would be pushing for a recession right before an election? Hmmmmmm....

Just like clockwork. I've been predicting this one for some time. 

6 posted on 09/15/2007 2:31:42 PM PDT by zeugma (If I eat right, don't smoke and exercise, I might live long enough to see the last Baby Boomer die.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ah! I see it’s just another conspiracy!


7 posted on 09/15/2007 2:32:28 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB
This isn't a nation of savers.

Quite true and to our national detriment. The reason is our government taxes savers and subsidizes debtors. As long as that is the case I think we'll have the problem for a long time.

8 posted on 09/15/2007 2:32:41 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Give unto Caesar when you wish. Vote Fair Tax.)
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To: AuntB

I’m a bit confused.

Does this mean the sky is falling? or is this a general doomination type world ending event?

Should I buy a new umbrella?


9 posted on 09/15/2007 2:32:48 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: AuntB

And why do you suppose Americans are not savers? Could it be because they have been indoctrinated to believe that “the government” would take care of them? Social Security? Medicare? etc, etc.

Too many Americans have been sucked into the idea that they are somehow “entitled” to be taken care of by the government. When asked who is going to pay for it, they say “the government” as if that money didn’t have to come out of someone else’s pocket somewhere. I have heard this idea expressed by someone earning over $150,000/yr. He thought he could spend every penny and then some and thought that the government would take care of him in old age. When asked where the government would get the money, he said “from the rich people” as if he were destitute on $150,000/yr.


10 posted on 09/15/2007 2:33:29 PM PDT by generally (Ask me about FReepers Folding@Home)
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To: xcamel
It takes the media about 6-8 months to create a recession. They are working hard to make sure that this one comes in right on schedule.

 

11 posted on 09/15/2007 2:34:35 PM PDT by zeugma (If I eat right, don't smoke and exercise, I might live long enough to see the last Baby Boomer die.)
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To: edcoil
Seattle Times, a bastion of liberal thinking if there ever was.

Liberal, yes. However, the thinking part is open to debate.

12 posted on 09/15/2007 2:35:42 PM PDT by Random Access
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To: Grimmy

A lot of belt-tightening for many and catastrophe for some.


13 posted on 09/15/2007 2:35:57 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: AnnaZ; 2ndDivisionVet; hedgetrimmer; B4Ranch; All

Okay. We don’t need to save and we can just spend ‘til hell freezes over. Forget self reliance.

I’m curious. How many months could your family survive with NO household income?

How long before you’d need someone giving you what they’d bothered to save instead of spending on a bunch of junk they didn’t need in the first place?


14 posted on 09/15/2007 2:36:18 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: generally

I agree.

I’m curious. How many months could your family survive with NO household income?

How long before you’d need someone giving you what they’d bothered to save instead of spending on a bunch of junk they didn’t need in the first place?


15 posted on 09/15/2007 2:38:28 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB
And the discussion has begun on what kind of baloney economy kept them lubricated for so long.......

Sure enough it hasn't been a dot-com boom.

16 posted on 09/15/2007 2:38:43 PM PDT by Nomorjer Kinov (If the opposite of "pro" is "con" , what is the opposite of progress?)
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To: AuntB

Have you factored in 401Ks and IRAs, etc? For most Americans those savings are quite substantial.

Or are you talking about an old fashioned “savings” account with a 1% rate?

Most Americans have some sort of mutual fund activity.


17 posted on 09/15/2007 2:38:56 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: zeugma; Grimmy

I’m curious. How many months could your family survive with NO household income?

How long before you’d need someone giving you what they’d bothered to save instead of having spent it all on a bunch of junk no one needs in the first place?


18 posted on 09/15/2007 2:40:14 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Grimmy

We’re DOOMED!!


19 posted on 09/15/2007 2:40:23 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: xcamel

self-fulfilling prophecy.... or just self-parody?


20 posted on 09/15/2007 2:41:16 PM PDT by coydog (Keep Canada green - paint a Liberal!)
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