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Need some quick help on finding who said this...
unknown ^ | today | for-q-clinton

Posted on 09/14/2007 6:53:26 PM PDT by for-q-clinton

Need to know who said "Democracy is doomed to failure when the 51% of the population figures out they can take everything from the other 49%"? Or something like that.

thank you


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To: for-q-clinton

I googled and came up with your post at the top. You said it.


41 posted on 09/15/2007 5:46:27 AM PDT by Ben Chad
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To: LibWhacker
Reference.com?
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

I've got a better source for you than a dictionary...
The World Factbook
Federal republic - a state in which the powers of the central government are restricted and in which the component parts (states, colonies, or provinces) retain a degree of self-government; ultimate sovereign power rests with the voters who chose their governmental representatives.
You'll note that "representative democracy" isn't even listed.
And you'll note here...United States Constitution-based federal republic; strong democratic tradition

You aren't going to convince me that America is a democracy of any kind so you may as well quit trying. I'm immune to the agitprop.

42 posted on 09/15/2007 6:08:45 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: LibWhacker
And if you're going to stoop to sourcing reference.com I'm going to source Wikipedia, which is as liberal as it gets and even they've got it right!
Constitutional republic
The United States of America is the oldest constitutional republic in the world.
43 posted on 09/15/2007 6:16:33 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: for-q-clinton; Millee; Allegra; honolulugal; carlr; Maximus of Texas; EX52D; StephenTX; ...
Morning all, let me first answer for-q-clinton's question:

"Bread and Circuses is the cancer of democracy, the fatal disease for which there is no cure. Democracy often works beautifully at first. But once a state extends the franchise to every warm body, be he producer or parasite, that day marks the beginning of the end of the state. For when the plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so, until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invader--the barbarians enter Rome."

Robert A. Heinlein -- To Sail Beyond the Sunset

"When one wonders who say what, you will find Bob Heinlein probably said it once or twice in his long, productive life!" -- Bender2 9-15-07

Now, ya'll all doing okay?

Fine...

44 posted on 09/15/2007 6:27:58 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2; Tijeras_Slim; Slings and Arrows; martin_fierro; Xenalyte; TheMom
Here, I've got one:

"A pair of new socks is only new the first time you wear them.
After the first laundering, they fail to remain new."

Allegra
2007

45 posted on 09/15/2007 6:41:58 AM PDT by Allegra (Turning Vanity Threads Into New Socks Threads at Every Opportunity)
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To: DoughtyOne

For you, anytime my FRiend.


46 posted on 09/15/2007 6:54:44 AM PDT by papasmurf (I'm for Free, Fair, and Open trade. America needs to stand by it's true Friend. Israel.)
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To: Allegra
You & your freakin socks!!
47 posted on 09/15/2007 6:59:53 AM PDT by Millee (Tagline free since 10/20/06)
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To: Allegra; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; martin_fierro; ...
"When visiting your favorite politician's grave, FIRST dance, THEN pee."
--Slings and Arrows


48 posted on 09/15/2007 7:17:22 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Be deranged in a consistent manner. Manson was nuts, but at least he was always on message." --dead)
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To: El Gato
The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.

Well we are well past that stage now aren't we? That is about all the congress does these days. Vote on bribes (earmarks anyone). The U.S. government has become nothing more than a conduit for bribes. The things that it does that are truly constitutional are few and far between it seems these days.

49 posted on 09/15/2007 7:31:21 AM PDT by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: LibWhacker
The Tytler quote has been established as a fraud that’s been around for a long time.

John / Billybob

P.S. to All: Any quote that comes without a reliable source citation should be disregarded. That’s how frauds like Lincoln’s admonitions, and the Desiderata, get started.

50 posted on 09/15/2007 9:20:26 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (2008 IS HERE, NOW. www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Nick Danger
Afternoon, my friend.

When I posted to this thread, I was thinking of the article for which you provided a click link, Great minds, and all that.

Please send my info on your current office address and phone. I am thinking about another run for Congress in the 11th District. The long-term incumbent, Charles Taylor, is now gone, exactly as I said he would be, last time around. This race will now be a donnybrook, and I would appreciate your sage advice on same.

Please send your reply not through Freepmail, but to:
John_Armor@aya.yale.edu

Thanks.

John / Billybob

51 posted on 09/15/2007 9:25:41 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (2008 IS HERE, NOW. www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: for-q-clinton
This is a literary fraud. See the click link that Nick Danger provided.

John / Billybob

52 posted on 09/15/2007 9:28:11 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (2008 IS HERE, NOW. www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: LibWhacker
"A Republic, if you can keep it!"

-Ben Franklin

53 posted on 09/15/2007 9:28:52 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Remember Mustang 22 and her heroes.)
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To: philman_36
Then we're at loggerheads; I'm immune to ignorance.

Agitprop, my a**.

54 posted on 09/15/2007 2:07:07 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

FYI, Tyler was credited with that quote but it is highly debatable. Whoever said it is a genius......

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government.
It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.
From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over lousy fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.
The average of the world’s great civilizations before they decline has been 200 years.
These nations have progressed in this sequence:
From bondage to spiritual faith;
from faith to great courage;
from courage to liberty;
from liberty to abundance;
from abundance to selfishness;
from selfishness to Complacency;
from complacency to apathy;
from apathy to dependency;
from dependency back again to bondage.

Alexander Fraser Tyler, Cycle of Democracy (1770)

FYI, Tyler was credited with that quote but it is highly debatable. Whoever said it is a genius.


55 posted on 09/15/2007 7:06:18 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Nick Danger

Interesting that nobody knows who to attribute that quotation to. I’m going to credit you.

Nick Danger has pointed out that democracies only last....
LOL


56 posted on 09/15/2007 7:40:30 PM PDT by Brucifer (G. W. Bush "The dog ate my copy of the Constitution.")
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To: LibWhacker
...I'm immune to ignorance.
Yeah, right. You're consumed with it regarding your own form of government.
You're not a LibWhacker, you're a LibEnabler when you espouse the leftist doctrine of America being a democracy.
The only one you're fooling is yourself.
57 posted on 09/16/2007 12:22:22 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: philman_36
Whatever, genius: The only democracies in the world are direct democracies... DUH!

UGH, high school dropouts.

58 posted on 09/16/2007 1:05:08 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: for-q-clinton

Try this link:

http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote_blog/Frederic.Bastiat.Quote.70E1


59 posted on 09/16/2007 1:18:57 PM PDT by Busywhiskers (Strength and honor.)
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To: LibWhacker
Whatever, genius: The only democracies in the world are direct democracies... DUH!
Comparitively speaking I guess I am a genius, especially when you see the number of democracies in the world that aren't direct democracies
Field Listing - Government type
Antigua and Barbuda...constitutional parliamentary democracy
Aruba..........................parliamentary democracy
Australia......................federal parliamentary democracy
Bahamas, The.............constitutional parliamentary democracy
Bangladesh..................parliamentary democracy
Barbados....................parliamentary democracy

But...but...how can that be? No direct democracies there. /sarcasm
I don't see any point in continuing to list more, which there are, do you?

60 posted on 09/17/2007 2:36:26 AM PDT by philman_36
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