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Global Warming Good News: No More Ice Ages
LiveScience ^ | 09/07/07 | Andrea Thompson

Posted on 09/10/2007 6:39:25 AM PDT by presidio9

Finally, there’s some "good" news about global warming: All that carbon dioxide we’ve emitted into the atmosphere could mean no more ice ages anytime soon, new research says.

Most research into the effects of the carbon dioxide accumulating in our atmosphere has looked ahead only to the next century or two.

But the emitted carbon dioxide isn't just going to disappear after that—research has shown that some of the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere now will hang around for quite awhile, probably tens or even hundreds of thousands of years. So the effects of burning fossil fuels today will extend long beyond the next couple hundred years, possibly delaying the onset of Earth's next ice age, says researcher Toby Tyrrell of the University of Southampton in the United Kingdom.

Advancing ice

Ice ages naturally occur about every 100,000 years or so as the pattern of Earth's orbit changes with time and alters the way the sun strikes the planet's surface.

When less solar energy hits a given area of the surface, temperatures become cooler (this is what causes the difference in temperatures between summer and winter). Long-term changes in Earth's orbit that cause less solar energy to hit the surface can cool down summer temperatures so that less ice melts at the poles.

If ice sheets and glaciers don't melt a bit in the summer, the ice accumulates and starts to advance—in past ice ages, sheets of ice covered all of Canada and most of the Northern United States.

The level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is also an important factor in triggering an ice age. In the past, lower carbon dioxide levels (caused by natural processes) helped cool the Earth and again allowed ice to advance.

Rising carbon dioxide levels, as is the case with global warming, can have the opposite effect.

No more ice ages

Through the burning of fossil fuels, carbon dioxide is now accumulating in the atmosphere.

Tyrrell and his colleagues used a model to study what would happen if carbon dioxide continued to be emitted and how that would affect the long-term balance of carbon dioxide in the air and the ocean's chemistry.

The ocean is absorbing some of the carbon dioxide emitted into the air, which is causing it to become more acidic (similarly, the bubbles of carbon dioxide dissolved in your soda are what give it acidity).

Tyrrell and his team's model shows that carbon dioxide levels will be higher far into the future than previously predicted, because the acidifying ocean will dissolve more calcium carbonate from the shells of marine organisms, which acts as a buffer against acidification. But this buffer can only help to a certain point, and eventually the ocean won't be able to take up any more carbon dioxide.

"It can't just keep taking it up," said Joan Kleypas of the U.S. National Center for Atmospheric Research, who was not involved in the study.

The model results, detailed in a recent issue of the journal Tellus, project that 8 to 10 percent of the carbon dioxide emitted into the atmosphere will remain there for thousands of years, causing levels of the greenhouse gas to equilibrate in the atmosphere at twice their pre-industrial levels.

"It won't go back to original levels," Kleypas told LiveScience.

Even if we burn only a quarter of the Earth's total reserves of fossil fuels (currently we have burned less than one tenth of reserves), the carbon dioxide remaining in the atmosphere could cause the next ice age to be skipped because ice sheets and glaciers will have melted and won't be able to reform substantially, Tyrrell found.

In fact, burning up all of Earth's reserves would prevent the next five ice ages, the model shows, he said.

"Our research shows why atmospheric CO2 will not return to pre-industrial levels after we stop burning fossil fuels," Tyrrell said. "It shows that if we use up all known fossil fuels it doesn't matter at what rate we burn them. The result would be the same if we burned them at present rates or at more moderate rates; we would still get the same eventual ice-age-prevention result."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; environment; globalwarming; junkscience

1 posted on 09/10/2007 6:39:44 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
In fact, burning up all of Earth's reserves would prevent the next five ice ages, the model shows, he said.

These science guys know everything!

2 posted on 09/10/2007 6:41:26 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: presidio9

When can I start my pineapple plantation in Illinois? And my Rubber tree plantation in Tennessee? And my Banana Plantation in Washington?..........


3 posted on 09/10/2007 6:43:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: presidio9

All this hand wringing over global warming. No one ever mentions the positives. For that matter, no one mentions what global cooling could do.

Our growing seasons are getting longer. We can grow more food. Thank you global warming!

Now if we were going into an ice age, the opposite would be true, and millions would die.

Go tank up your SUV, do it for humanity! :)


4 posted on 09/10/2007 6:51:37 AM PDT by brownsfan (America has "jumped the shark")
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To: presidio9
Finally, there’s some "good" news about global warming: All that carbon dioxide we’ve emitted into the atmosphere could mean no more ice ages anytime soon, new research says.

An here I thought we were only in an inter-glacial period of the current ice age.

5 posted on 09/10/2007 6:53:29 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: presidio9
Ice ages naturally occur about every 100,000 years or so as the pattern of Earth's orbit changes with time and alters the way the sun strikes the planet's surface.

Let's see now: The last ice age ended about 15,000 years ago, so we're referring to something 75,000 years in the future.

These guys are good!

6 posted on 09/10/2007 7:12:13 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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Finally, there’s some "good" news about global warming: All that carbon dioxide we’ve emitted into the atmosphere could mean no more ice ages anytime soon, new research says.

Well, that's good news......

7 posted on 09/10/2007 7:16:33 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metesky
Can’t recall where but I read an article a year or so ago regarding a researcher whose put forth the theory that were it not for current global warming (human caused) we would already be in the next Ice age. I don’t necessarliy believe in human caused global warming but it was an interesting theory.
8 posted on 09/10/2007 7:20:44 AM PDT by nomorelurker (wetraginhell)
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To: metmom
It would be good news if CO2 caused global warming...It doesn’t.
9 posted on 09/10/2007 7:50:27 AM PDT by Edgerunner (If you won't let the military fight your battles, you will have to. Keep your powder dry...)
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To: presidio9
But the emitted carbon dioxide isn't just going to disappear after that—research has shown that some of the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere now will hang around for quite awhile, probably tens or even hundreds of thousands of years. So the effects of burning fossil fuels today will extend long beyond the next couple hundred years, possibly delaying the onset of Earth's next ice age, says researcher Toby Tyrrell of the University of Southampton in the United Kingdom.

Baloney. CO2 levels have been higher in post warming periods because it takes a while, after cooling begins, for the CO2 to be reabsorbed into the oceans. It doesn't postpone cooling.
10 posted on 09/10/2007 7:57:28 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: brownsfan

And most of both East and West coasts would be underwater, which is a good start.

So long as we keep the Mid-West and the Mid-South America will survive very well thank you.


11 posted on 09/10/2007 8:07:00 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (If Roger Maris got an asterisk next to his name, Bonds should get a syringe)
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Interesting. This is contray to what most AGW`ers say. They say gw wil cause an ice age to happen sooner.


12 posted on 09/10/2007 4:49:12 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Huh?


13 posted on 09/10/2007 4:54:49 PM PDT by I got the rope
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