If it's an obvious fraud then you must believe they are liars and hucksters. And don't really believe what they say they believe.
Otherwise you end up with the argument that these very learned and credentialed men are stupid fools.
Posted on 08/31/2007 3:21:59 AM PDT by monomaniac
By Hilary White
August 30, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - "If you have questioned Darwinism, that's it, your career is over."
"I was viewed as an intellectual terrorist."
"I have been told to shut up."
The quotes come from interviews with research scientists featured in a new film, "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed," starring the New York writer and intellectual Ben Stein. The film, set for release in February 2008, documents the crushing of any investigation or questioning of materialist Darwinism that is the orthodox position of most of the scientific establishment.
In the trailer for "Expelled", Stein is seen addressing an audience saying, "There are people out there who want to keep science in a little box, where it can't possibly touch God…Scientists are not allowed to even think thoughts that involve an intelligent creator."
A PRNewswire release says that Stein, a lawyer, economist, former presidential speechwriter, author and social commentator, was "stunned" when he investigated the debate surrounding Intelligent Design theory and Darwinism. Stein uncovers what he says is an elitist scientific establishment that actively suppresses any research that may lead to questioning of the accepted Darwinian theory.
The film features interviews with scientists and thinkers including biologists, astronomers, chemists and philosophers who have had their ideas suppressed for questioning adherence to the materialist theory.
"Big Science in this area of biology has lost its way," says Stein. "Scientists are supposed to be allowed to follow the evidence wherever it may lead, no matter what the implications are. Freedom of inquiry has been greatly compromised, and this is not only anti-American, it's anti-science. Its anti-the whole concept of learning."
Stein writes that the Darwinian orthodoxy in science is as dangerous politically as it is antithetical to free scientific inquiry.
"America is not America without freedom," he writes. "Human beings are supposed to live in a state of freedom. Freedom is not conferred by the state: as our founders said, and as Martin Luther King repeated, freedom is God-given."
"A huge part of this freedom is freedom of inquiry."
Expelled was produced by Premise Media and marketed by Motive Entertainment, the company that has spearheaded The Passion of the Christ, Polar Express and The Chronicles of Narnia.
View the trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxGyMn_-J3c
Read related LifeSiteNews.com coverage:
Over 400 Eminent Scientists Sign "A Scientific Dissent from Darwinism"
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/jul/05072204.html
Over 500 PhD Scientists Proclaim Their Doubts About Darwin's Theory
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/feb/06022204.html
Read Ben Stein's weblog:
http://www.expelledthemovie.com/blog/
On the one hand you have "...and then the magic happens." On the other hand you have "...and then a miracle occurs." So if you claim evolution has no scientific basis then how can you say ID does?
LMFAO
The knowledge there is no evidence of the ID god scares them.
The evidence of evolution (macro evolution) is non-existant. What irks the ID crowd is that one theory has become dogma without supporting evidence.
One heck of an engineer.
So your complaint isn't that a theory without supporting evidence has become dogma. It's that your theory without supporing evidence isn't the one.
A rambling wreck from Georgia Tech, no doubt.
The evidence is non-existant to creationists because they absolutely refuse to see it--for religious reasons. Evolutionary scientists have no problem seeing the huge amount of evidence that is out there, with more coming each year.
And to paraphrase your second statement: What irks scientists is that dogma wants to become science without supporting evidence.
And when evolutionists discover that God originated life, then what?
Do they become "creationists"?
Great question. I'll give you the answer: they continue with their work researching how life evolves. What did you think would happen?
Just out of curiousity, but how do you think they’ll “discover” something like that?
If you insist in making religion into science then when science finds evidence which support evolution, what does that say about your religion?
That's because "modern science" precludes the supernatural. It assumes a priori that there is nothing outside the natural. Hence it (modern science) presupposes the philosophy of materialism.
But their Groupies are nevertheless working very hard; that's why you're here, isn't it?
If it's an obvious fraud then you must believe they are liars and hucksters. And don't really believe what they say they believe.
Otherwise you end up with the argument that these very learned and credentialed men are stupid fools.
Go Ben!
Bullshit. Science precludes making assertions about things that cannot be studied by empirical methods.
No phenomenon that can be studied is off limits.
Quantum phenomena are weirder than anything imagined by philosophy, but they are consistent and regular, and lend themselves to observation, experimentation and quantification.
"Evidence" that only supports evolutionary theory if you accept the premise of Darwinism before examining the evidence. So that's exactly how it's done: "Wow, a new bone! We know before we even study it that it supports Darwinism, we just have to decide how!"
You can talk about the huge amount of evidence all you like, but if that evidence were examined in a cold, critical, unabashedly scientific light, it would no more support Darwinism than it would support the notion of the man in the moon. Evolutionary theory is a house of cards held up by circular reasoning.
MM (in TX)
How can this be? Isn’t science our God?
Science and Multiculturalism the religions that aren’t called religions...
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