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Migrants Self-Deporting In Arizona
Captain's Quarters ^ | August 27, 2007 | Ed Morrisey

Posted on 08/27/2007 4:57:42 PM PDT by greyfoxx39

Yesterday's Arizona Republic reported on an interesting phenomenon taking place as a new workplace identification law approaches implementation. Those workers with no documentation -- in other words, illegal aliens -- have begun to sell off their property and leave the state:

Undocumented immigrants are starting to leave Arizona because of the new employer-sanctions law. The state's strong economy has been a magnet for illegal immigrants for years. But a growing number are pulling up stakes out of fear they will be jobless come Jan. 1, when the law takes effect. The departures are drawing cheers from immigration hard-liners and alarm from business owners already seeing a drop in sales.

It's impossible to count how many undocumented immigrants have fled because of the new law. But based on interviews with undocumented immigrants, immigrant advocates, community leaders and real-estate agents, at least several hundred have left since Democratic Gov. Janet Napolitano signed the bill on July 2. There are an estimated 500,000 illegal immigrants in Arizona.

Some are moving to other states, where they think they will have an easier time getting jobs. Others are returning to Mexico, selling their effects and putting their houses on the market.

The number departing is expected to mushroom as the Jan. 1 deadline draws closer. After that, the law will require employers to verify the employment eligibility of their workers through a federal database.

The immigration hard-liners appear to have proven one of their main arguments. Illegal immigrants who face a loss of employment due to strict employer sanctions will move elsewhere, and rather quickly. One talk-radio host that caters to what the Republic calls "undocumented immigrants" estimates that the departure rate has already hit 100 per day. It will likely increase until most of them depart before the end of the year, when their jobs will disappear.

Arizona passed employer sanctions with a particular bite. Rather than set up an escalating series of fines, which has been the federal approach, the state opted to put employers out of business. A first offense gets a ten-day suspension of the firm's business license, which would close the doors during that period. A subsequent offense revokes the business license permanently. Needless to say, that has provided an incentive to business owners to start checking identities through the federal database and terminating anyone who doesn't clear the system.

The Arizona Chamber of Commerce heads a coalition that wants the law repealed based on a Constitutional challenge, but it's hard to see how they can succeed. The state can impose sanctions on business licenses it issues, and it can insist that employers check for worker eligibility. The real issue for the ACC is labor shortages. The state currently has an unemployment rate of 3.7%, statistically full employment. Arizona employers will have to raise wages to compete for workers, which will cost consumers more but allow for more money in the market as well. It also might prompt business to push for automation where possible, using technology to fill the gaps.

However, the state does have around 9% of its workforce comprised by illegals. They rent houses and apartments, shop for food, and consume just like anyone else does in Arizona. When they disappear, the state will undoubtedly suffer a hit to the economy, especially in housing, which could depress real-estate values in some areas. Some of the immigrants own houses, and they have to sell them fast, which has glutted the resale market in the state. Secondary markets like furniture and home improvement have slowed considerably in Arizona, too.

Proponents of federalism often refer to states as laboratories for political experiments. Arizona's efforts on employer sanctions will prove an interesting test case for employer-based immigration sanctions.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; az; crimaliens; employersanctions; enforcement; illegal; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigrants; immigration; selfdeportation
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To: hdstmf
How the hell did they get houses financed? How are they processing papers with tax assessors? How can they set up accounts with with utility companies?

Because political correctness has ruled certain pointed but necessary questions out of bounds.

81 posted on 08/28/2007 9:39:19 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Oberon

So true.


82 posted on 08/28/2007 10:43:48 AM PDT by B4Ranch ("Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: jalexson
the anti immmigrant crowd doesn't care what happens to the economy. The reduced demand for goods and services will put a lot of citizens out of work or out of business.

It is the anti-illegal immigrationcrowd that cares about the economy and the country. First, get the terminology right. Second, look at the big picture. Illegal aliens typically come here with a 6th grade education and are unskilled low-wage earners. They take much, much more in social services and free handouts than they ever return. And stats show that their children don't do much better. They cost each and every one of us tax-dollars and in return, we get increased crime, increased dumbing-down of our education, and a loss of our own culture. While having to support these illegals and their offspring because they earn so little money. They are an overal net drain on our economy.
83 posted on 08/28/2007 10:54:03 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: Chode

Amen, brother amen.


84 posted on 08/28/2007 10:56:02 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Wuli

Excellent post. As the mother of a 16 year old, the opportunities for him to earn some money aren’t there like they were when I was his age. And to work in a store around here, he has to speak spanish!


85 posted on 08/28/2007 11:01:02 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: stephenjohnbanker

That’s what John and Ken call Clown Houses and they are very prevalent in Orange and Santa Ana, California. The town counsels there changed the law to remove limitations on the number of people who can live in a single family residence. Results - instant (D) voters.


86 posted on 08/28/2007 11:03:07 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Exactly!


87 posted on 08/28/2007 11:05:02 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Cold Heart
A California grape grower has pulled up all his grapes and replanted them with grapes that can be picked by machine.

He will employ 1/10th the labor.

Interesting. Do you have a link for that?

88 posted on 08/28/2007 11:06:33 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: greyfoxx39
..no one would have to do anything mean, no one would have to do anything harsh--a simple removal of any economic magnets would create a condition for self-deportation

Prop 187 in CA (which won overwhelmingly) would have done this--if the liberal courts would have stayed out of it...

89 posted on 08/28/2007 11:11:10 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: WalterSkinner
Prop 187 in CA (which won overwhelmingly) would have done this--if the liberal courts would have stayed out of it...

How long until the libs step in here?

90 posted on 08/28/2007 11:22:57 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I think all legal Americans should get 5 votes apiece to make up for the "new" voters.)
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To: gotribe
Dems love this program, because they don’t want to build The Fence.

Which puts them standing shoulder-to-shoulder with Bush, who also doesn't want to build the fence.

91 posted on 08/28/2007 11:27:38 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (After six years of George W. Bush I long for the honesty and sincerity of the Clinton Administration)
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To: CottonBall

Thay tuk r jehbs!

Yes, the illegals squeezed out the teenagers from jobs where they could learn dilligence, timeliness, working well with and for others,

and we have a lot of entitlement minded young people because of it.


92 posted on 08/28/2007 11:32:02 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Why did the banks loan them the money?

Because the ACLU would sue them if they didn’t.


93 posted on 08/28/2007 11:32:31 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

I forgot where I read that. I do remember the vinyard mananger saying he had employed forty people and would now employ 4.

An on line article that goes further in depth on the mechanization is at http://researchfrontiers.uark.edu/628.htm
That article says 50 to 70% labor savings. It also says that merlot grapes produced a better wine when compared to hand cultivation.


94 posted on 08/28/2007 11:58:23 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: greyfoxx39

yes I wonder how this relates to the sub prime “crisis”

AMNESTY fails and presto, sub prime crisis...


95 posted on 08/28/2007 12:26:47 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Principled

that explains the mad rush to shut down the sub prime divisions...


96 posted on 08/28/2007 12:35:17 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: greyfoxx39

Great news!!!


97 posted on 08/28/2007 5:21:47 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

Indeed!


98 posted on 08/28/2007 5:27:50 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I think all legal Americans should get 5 votes apiece to make up for the "new" voters.)
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To: yorkie
The fence must be built!

bttt!

99 posted on 08/29/2007 3:38:10 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Pelham

Sheriff Chain Gang Arpaio. I’d probably vote for him. :)


100 posted on 08/29/2007 3:40:57 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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