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Migrants Self-Deporting In Arizona
Captain's Quarters ^ | August 27, 2007 | Ed Morrisey

Posted on 08/27/2007 4:57:42 PM PDT by greyfoxx39

Yesterday's Arizona Republic reported on an interesting phenomenon taking place as a new workplace identification law approaches implementation. Those workers with no documentation -- in other words, illegal aliens -- have begun to sell off their property and leave the state:

Undocumented immigrants are starting to leave Arizona because of the new employer-sanctions law. The state's strong economy has been a magnet for illegal immigrants for years. But a growing number are pulling up stakes out of fear they will be jobless come Jan. 1, when the law takes effect. The departures are drawing cheers from immigration hard-liners and alarm from business owners already seeing a drop in sales.

It's impossible to count how many undocumented immigrants have fled because of the new law. But based on interviews with undocumented immigrants, immigrant advocates, community leaders and real-estate agents, at least several hundred have left since Democratic Gov. Janet Napolitano signed the bill on July 2. There are an estimated 500,000 illegal immigrants in Arizona.

Some are moving to other states, where they think they will have an easier time getting jobs. Others are returning to Mexico, selling their effects and putting their houses on the market.

The number departing is expected to mushroom as the Jan. 1 deadline draws closer. After that, the law will require employers to verify the employment eligibility of their workers through a federal database.

The immigration hard-liners appear to have proven one of their main arguments. Illegal immigrants who face a loss of employment due to strict employer sanctions will move elsewhere, and rather quickly. One talk-radio host that caters to what the Republic calls "undocumented immigrants" estimates that the departure rate has already hit 100 per day. It will likely increase until most of them depart before the end of the year, when their jobs will disappear.

Arizona passed employer sanctions with a particular bite. Rather than set up an escalating series of fines, which has been the federal approach, the state opted to put employers out of business. A first offense gets a ten-day suspension of the firm's business license, which would close the doors during that period. A subsequent offense revokes the business license permanently. Needless to say, that has provided an incentive to business owners to start checking identities through the federal database and terminating anyone who doesn't clear the system.

The Arizona Chamber of Commerce heads a coalition that wants the law repealed based on a Constitutional challenge, but it's hard to see how they can succeed. The state can impose sanctions on business licenses it issues, and it can insist that employers check for worker eligibility. The real issue for the ACC is labor shortages. The state currently has an unemployment rate of 3.7%, statistically full employment. Arizona employers will have to raise wages to compete for workers, which will cost consumers more but allow for more money in the market as well. It also might prompt business to push for automation where possible, using technology to fill the gaps.

However, the state does have around 9% of its workforce comprised by illegals. They rent houses and apartments, shop for food, and consume just like anyone else does in Arizona. When they disappear, the state will undoubtedly suffer a hit to the economy, especially in housing, which could depress real-estate values in some areas. Some of the immigrants own houses, and they have to sell them fast, which has glutted the resale market in the state. Secondary markets like furniture and home improvement have slowed considerably in Arizona, too.

Proponents of federalism often refer to states as laboratories for political experiments. Arizona's efforts on employer sanctions will prove an interesting test case for employer-based immigration sanctions.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; az; crimaliens; employersanctions; enforcement; illegal; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigrants; immigration; selfdeportation
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Wonder how many illegal's homes are in the numbers being reported as foreclosures?

"Arizona passed employer sanctions with a particular bite. Rather than set up an escalating series of fines, which has been the federal approach, the state opted to put employers out of business. A first offense gets a ten-day suspension of the firm's business license, which would close the doors during that period. A subsequent offense revokes the business license permanently. Needless to say, that has provided an incentive to business owners to start checking identities through the federal database and terminating anyone who doesn't clear the system."

Here's hoping the 500,000 all leave before the libs and ACLU succeed in defeating this law.

Poor little New Mexico, with King Bill Richardson as Gov., we will not see this kind of law here.

1 posted on 08/27/2007 4:57:43 PM PDT by greyfoxx39
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To: CedarDave; LegendHasIt; Rogle; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; ...
Ping for a neighboring state that doing it right!

If you want on or off the NM Ping list, please FReepmail me.

2 posted on 08/27/2007 4:59:33 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I think all legal Americans should get 5 votes apiece to make up for the "new" voters.)
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To: greyfoxx39

But...but...but...WE CAN’T DEPORT 10/15/20/WHATEVER MILLION PEOPLE BACK TO THEIR HOME COUNTRY!!!

/sarc


3 posted on 08/27/2007 4:59:35 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom, Bible Thumper and Proud to be an American! RUN, FRED, RUN!!!)
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To: greyfoxx39
It's impossible to count how many undocumented immigrants have fled because of the new law.

Undocumented immigrants. I'm not 'trespassing', I'm 'territorially challenged'...
4 posted on 08/27/2007 5:01:29 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: greyfoxx39

“What are you gonna do - just deport 20 million people?”


5 posted on 08/27/2007 5:04:51 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: greyfoxx39
Some are moving to other states.................... Others are returning to Mexico

Want to guess what the ratio is?

6 posted on 08/27/2007 5:05:33 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: skeeter

No, we’ll let them deport themselves. Works better that way.


7 posted on 08/27/2007 5:10:31 PM PDT by irishtenor (There is no "I" in team, but there are two in IDIOT.)
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To: doorgunner69

Wanna bet the gangbangers and drug runners will still be in AZ when all the others have left? This is why we need a fence in addition to interior enforcement.


8 posted on 08/27/2007 5:10:35 PM PDT by umgud
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To: greyfoxx39
How the hell does a Democrat one-up us on immigration?
Nevermind.
9 posted on 08/27/2007 5:13:17 PM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: greyfoxx39

Say, isn’t Arizona the state where that sherriff has all those prisoners in a boot camp?

Maybe some of them can be offered an opportunity to reform and get a steady job, if they’re tired of being in jail.


10 posted on 08/27/2007 5:13:25 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: greyfoxx39
I'm glad I don't own stock I would certainly sell it considering the rising defaults on mortgages and declining house values. BAnks are going to end up with a lot of mortgages on over valued property, but then the anti immmigrant crowd doesn't care what happens to the economy. The reduced demand for goods and services will put a lot of citizens out of work or out of business. Here's some more from the original article. <> http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0826sanctionsimpact08260.html?&wired
11 posted on 08/27/2007 5:13:43 PM PDT by jalexson
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To: greyfoxx39

Based on how many illegals I saw at the local park this last weekend, I’d say they are all moving to Texas.


12 posted on 08/27/2007 5:14:46 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: greyfoxx39
Arizona employers will have to raise wages to compete for workers, which will cost consumers more but allow for more money in the market as well. It also might prompt business to push for automation where possible, using technology to fill the gaps.

Gasp! They might have to pay actual wages and make use of technology!

13 posted on 08/27/2007 5:15:29 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * U.Va. Engineering '09 * Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat * Fred in 2008)
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To: greyfoxx39

What a surprise. lol Amazing things happen when you enforce the law.


14 posted on 08/27/2007 5:16:46 PM PDT by Maelstorm (When ideas are considered equal regardless of content, then arriving at truth becomes an accident.)
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To: irishtenor
Damn right they will. Some of us have been screaming this for years now.
15 posted on 08/27/2007 5:18:00 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: jalexson
He knows other undocumented immigrants who are refinancing their houses and getting cash out so they can return right away rather than waiting for their houses to sell.

Refinancing the homes, taking the cash, and returning to Mexico, leaving the bank stuck with the mortgages? Oh no!

16 posted on 08/27/2007 5:18:24 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * U.Va. Engineering '09 * Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat * Fred in 2008)
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To: greyfoxx39

Oh yes, they’ll come to NM. After all, we do have a Governor who is 1/2 Mexican and 1/2 RAT. You know, he’s rolled out the red carpet for them. He wants their votes.


17 posted on 08/27/2007 5:21:57 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: greyfoxx39

18 posted on 08/27/2007 5:22:16 PM PDT by Gritty (When was public virtue to be found when private was not? - William Cowper)
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To: greyfoxx39
If we really, really need extra workers, then the hapless, incompetent FedGov would fix the LEGAL immigration system, so that they could get here LEGALLY as needed, wouldn't they?

Wouldn't they? Huh? Huh?

No?

Why not?

19 posted on 08/27/2007 5:24:52 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: greyfoxx39

What a surprise! Enforce the law and see that it actually works...


20 posted on 08/27/2007 5:24:52 PM PDT by joonbug
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