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Migrants Self-Deporting In Arizona
Captain's Quarters ^ | August 27, 2007 | Ed Morrisey

Posted on 08/27/2007 4:57:42 PM PDT by greyfoxx39

Yesterday's Arizona Republic reported on an interesting phenomenon taking place as a new workplace identification law approaches implementation. Those workers with no documentation -- in other words, illegal aliens -- have begun to sell off their property and leave the state:

Undocumented immigrants are starting to leave Arizona because of the new employer-sanctions law. The state's strong economy has been a magnet for illegal immigrants for years. But a growing number are pulling up stakes out of fear they will be jobless come Jan. 1, when the law takes effect. The departures are drawing cheers from immigration hard-liners and alarm from business owners already seeing a drop in sales.

It's impossible to count how many undocumented immigrants have fled because of the new law. But based on interviews with undocumented immigrants, immigrant advocates, community leaders and real-estate agents, at least several hundred have left since Democratic Gov. Janet Napolitano signed the bill on July 2. There are an estimated 500,000 illegal immigrants in Arizona.

Some are moving to other states, where they think they will have an easier time getting jobs. Others are returning to Mexico, selling their effects and putting their houses on the market.

The number departing is expected to mushroom as the Jan. 1 deadline draws closer. After that, the law will require employers to verify the employment eligibility of their workers through a federal database.

The immigration hard-liners appear to have proven one of their main arguments. Illegal immigrants who face a loss of employment due to strict employer sanctions will move elsewhere, and rather quickly. One talk-radio host that caters to what the Republic calls "undocumented immigrants" estimates that the departure rate has already hit 100 per day. It will likely increase until most of them depart before the end of the year, when their jobs will disappear.

Arizona passed employer sanctions with a particular bite. Rather than set up an escalating series of fines, which has been the federal approach, the state opted to put employers out of business. A first offense gets a ten-day suspension of the firm's business license, which would close the doors during that period. A subsequent offense revokes the business license permanently. Needless to say, that has provided an incentive to business owners to start checking identities through the federal database and terminating anyone who doesn't clear the system.

The Arizona Chamber of Commerce heads a coalition that wants the law repealed based on a Constitutional challenge, but it's hard to see how they can succeed. The state can impose sanctions on business licenses it issues, and it can insist that employers check for worker eligibility. The real issue for the ACC is labor shortages. The state currently has an unemployment rate of 3.7%, statistically full employment. Arizona employers will have to raise wages to compete for workers, which will cost consumers more but allow for more money in the market as well. It also might prompt business to push for automation where possible, using technology to fill the gaps.

However, the state does have around 9% of its workforce comprised by illegals. They rent houses and apartments, shop for food, and consume just like anyone else does in Arizona. When they disappear, the state will undoubtedly suffer a hit to the economy, especially in housing, which could depress real-estate values in some areas. Some of the immigrants own houses, and they have to sell them fast, which has glutted the resale market in the state. Secondary markets like furniture and home improvement have slowed considerably in Arizona, too.

Proponents of federalism often refer to states as laboratories for political experiments. Arizona's efforts on employer sanctions will prove an interesting test case for employer-based immigration sanctions.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; az; crimaliens; employersanctions; enforcement; illegal; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigrants; immigration; selfdeportation
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To: rabscuttle385

The banks will do fine. They’ll sell the houses and get their money.


41 posted on 08/27/2007 6:35:14 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I wouldn’t touch that one.


42 posted on 08/27/2007 6:35:18 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Principled

:))


43 posted on 08/27/2007 6:36:04 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: greyfoxx39
The departures are drawing...alarm from business owners already seeing a drop in sales.

These business people are criminals who should be prosecuted.

44 posted on 08/27/2007 6:36:24 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: ExTexasRedhead

The article says “However, the state does have around 9% of its workforce comprised by illegals. They rent houses and apartments, shop for food, and consume just like anyone else does in Arizona.”

A 10% decrease in renters and home owners = 10% more affordable housing for the rest of us
All the liberals demand more affordable housing for the poor ... and the houses and rentals being opened up are at the lower end of the spectrum. Decrease welfare roles and have more money to micromanage, decrease bilingual demands to free up more money for citizens on the dole, AND more affordable housing for those who need it.
Self deporting illegals is creating a socialist paradise?


45 posted on 08/27/2007 6:44:25 PM PDT by tbw2 (Science fiction with real science - "Humanity's Edge" by Tamara Wilhite)
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To: MaxMax
How the hell does a Democrat one-up us on immigration?

Arizona has a Republican-run legislature. I'm pretty sure they crammed this bill down Napolitano's throat.

46 posted on 08/27/2007 6:56:11 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: doorgunner69

“Some are moving to other states.................... Others are returning to Mexico
Want to guess what the ratio is?”

One to Mexico

200 to California...........


47 posted on 08/27/2007 6:57:12 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: B4Ranch

LOL!! The banks will know they are going to skip if

they can’t sell. No loans for you ! :-)


48 posted on 08/27/2007 6:58:47 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: greyfoxx39
Image hosted by Photobucket.com If you BUILD it... they will STAY!!! on their side that is.
49 posted on 08/27/2007 7:06:28 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: jalexson
… but then the anti immmigrant crowd doesn't care what happens to the economy.

I don't know many people who are anti-immigrant; but I know many who oppose illegal immigration. They certainly care what happens to the economy.

50 posted on 08/27/2007 7:16:05 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: stephenjohnbanker

STOP THAT!


51 posted on 08/27/2007 7:18:46 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Clintonfatigued

Welcome news, indeed. By the way, you can read the full article in the Arizona Republic by going to www.steinreport.com - one of the best sources for the latest immigration news. We’ve all known that eliminating the job magnet is the most important first step. However, the pro-illegal lobby is still active and trying to derail every state and local effort to curtail their activities. I suppose the ACLU will play its usual role of subversive supporter.


52 posted on 08/27/2007 7:32:41 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: greyfoxx39
and putting their houses on the market

What is wrong with this statement??

To buy and sell my house I had to get an anal exam in the process. You ought to see the pile of paperwork proving I am not an illegal.

Someone in the lending community is sure as hell violating the law. About time some of these sleazy lenders got put in the slammer.

53 posted on 08/27/2007 7:39:19 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Brad's Gramma

“STOP THAT!”

Jezz tellin it like it BE! :)


54 posted on 08/27/2007 8:28:39 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Brad's Gramma

By the way, you have a large house and only 2 epople
living there. Why don’t I arrange for 10 illegals to live there with you and pops. You can charge 500 each, which will yield 5000 per month under the table. And you get free Mexican dinners every night. In 1 year, you can bank 60,000!!!!


55 posted on 08/27/2007 8:33:04 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Hey now! THERE ya go!!!

We could be Oh-So-Wealthy!!!

WHOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!


56 posted on 08/27/2007 8:34:00 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: greyfoxx39
Yesterday's Arizona Republic reported on an interesting phenomenon taking place as a new workplace identification law approaches implementation. Those workers with no documentation -- in other words, illegal aliens -- have begun to sell off their property and leave the state:

A bummer for Michael Medved, Bill O'Reilly, and all the rest of the "you can't deport 12 million" crowd.

57 posted on 08/27/2007 8:34:33 PM PDT by Pelham (End Anchor Babies now)
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To: proxy_user
Say, isn’t Arizona the state where that sheriff has all those prisoners in a boot camp?

Sheriff Joe Arpaio for President.

58 posted on 08/27/2007 8:35:40 PM PDT by Pelham (End Anchor Babies now)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

BTW....is that 10 per room?


59 posted on 08/27/2007 8:37:08 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: jalexson

Waa....waaa

Give me a break. The economy will correct itself


60 posted on 08/27/2007 8:40:05 PM PDT by pooh fan ("Strong, the pull of the Dark Side is". Yoda)
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