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Clinton's first lady records locked up
LA Times ^ | 8/13/07 | Nicholas

Posted on 08/14/2007 6:01:38 AM PDT by pabianice

Archivists say the former first lady's documents at her husband's presidential library won't be released until after the '08 vote.

LITTLE ROCK, ARK --

. - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton cites her experience as a compelling reason voters should make her president, but nearly 2 million pages of documents covering her White House years are locked up in a building here, obscuring a large swath of her record as first lady.

Clinton's calendars, appointment logs and memos are stored at her husband's presidential library, in the custody of federal archivists who do not expect them to be released until after the 2008 presidential election.

A trove of records has been made public detailing the Clinton White House's attempts to remake the nation's healthcare system, following a request from Bill Clinton that those materials be released first. Hillary Clinton led the healthcare effort in 1993 and 1994.

But even in the healthcare documents, at least 1,000 pages involving her work has been censored by archives staff because they include confidential advice and must be kept secret under a federal law called the Presidential Records Act. Political consultants said that if Hillary Clinton's records were made public, rivals would mine them for scraps of information that might rattle her campaign.

"Those files -- that's the mother lode of opposition research," said Ray McNally, a Republican political consultant in Sacramento. "Opposition researchers would be very hungry to see what's there." Robert Shrum, senior political strategist in Democratic Sen. John F. Kerry's 2004 presidential campaign, said: "In 2 million pieces of paper, would opposition researchers hope to find one where she wrote a memo saying, 'I wish I'd never gotten involved in healthcare?' Sure. That's what they'd love to find."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: billingrecords; billydale; fbifiles; filegate; hillary; noeyecontact; roselawfirm; travelgate; x42
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1 posted on 08/14/2007 6:01:40 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice
But even in the healthcare documents, at least 1,000 pages involving her work has been censored by archives staff because they include confidential advice and must be kept secret under a federal law called the Presidential Records Act. Political consultants said that if Hillary Clinton's records were made public, rivals would mine them for scraps of information that might rattle her campaign.

She's running on her record but the record must remain secret.

2 posted on 08/14/2007 6:06:15 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: pabianice

If that headline was only missing the word “records”, I’d be popping the champagne right about now.


3 posted on 08/14/2007 6:10:02 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG (Apparently my former party considers me an "ugly nativist".)
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To: pabianice

4 posted on 08/14/2007 6:10:05 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: pabianice

But, but, but, if the people actually see her true self, she will never be elected in 2008. She is a chameleon, everything to everyone. No core values, blows with the wind of the most recent polls.

Biggest phony ever!


5 posted on 08/14/2007 6:10:20 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (I want a hero....I'm holding out for a hero (politically))
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To: pabianice
1,000 pages involving her work has been censored by archives staff because they include confidential advice and must be kept secret under a federal law called the Presidential Records Act.

"Must" be kept secret?

I smell flying monkeys.

6 posted on 08/14/2007 6:13:43 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: doug from upland

ping


7 posted on 08/14/2007 6:14:39 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

I would even join you in a toast. And I don’t like champagne.


8 posted on 08/14/2007 6:15:32 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: pabianice

And these are the “Open Records” that survived shredding!!!!!!


9 posted on 08/14/2007 6:16:57 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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To: pabianice

“Clinton’s first lady records locked up”

In a sane world the records would be free and she would be locked up.


10 posted on 08/14/2007 6:17:13 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Excessive tolerance will be the death of Western civilization.)
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To: pabianice

no need for anything more.
plenty of facts about the clintons on line,and thank you miaT


11 posted on 08/14/2007 6:17:20 AM PDT by catroina54
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To: pabianice
"Clinton's calendars, appointment logs and memos are stored at her husband's presidential library, in the custody of federal archivists who do not expect them to be released until after the 2008 presidential election."

says it all right there, really. She and Obama really WOULD make good ticket. Paper ballots, paper candidates....

12 posted on 08/14/2007 6:18:49 AM PDT by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: pabianice

The solution to this is obvious—all Republican presidential candidates must call for her to release them. Her refusal to do so becomes the story, probably a more easily understood one than anything the papers might reveal.


13 posted on 08/14/2007 6:19:01 AM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: hunter112

Send in Sandy Berger!


14 posted on 08/14/2007 6:21:33 AM PDT by fungoking
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To: vietvet67
I laugh whenever I see a picture of the clinton library. I know it is supposed to represent the “bridge to the 21st century” but I see it as the “trailer house to no where”.
15 posted on 08/14/2007 6:22:11 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: vietvet67

Was it an accident that this library ended up looking very much like a trailer?


16 posted on 08/14/2007 6:22:45 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: pabianice

Thank you for selecting my as your heart surgeon. Of course, any past records of how well or poorly I performed on past operations will be kept secret until after I have sliced you open from collarbone to groin. That’s just how we do things. Sorry.


17 posted on 08/14/2007 6:23:29 AM PDT by 50sDad (Angels on asteroids are abducting crop circles!)
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To: pabianice

If there is such a thing as the Presidential Records Act, I think that due to the unique circumstances surrounding this election (a former first lady running for President), an exception to this act be made under the Freedom of Information Act and all documents made available to the public. The woman is running for the most powerful seat in the world - Any and all information on her past achievements and failures must be released so that Americans can make a well-informed decision in November ‘08.

......I won’t be holding my breath for that to happen though.


18 posted on 08/14/2007 6:24:07 AM PDT by peteram (Liberals are just Stupid!)
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To: pabianice
Presidential Records Act TITLE 44 > CHAPTER 22

§ 2201. Definitions

As used in this chapter

(1) The term “documentary material” means all books, correspondence, memorandums, documents, papers, pamphlets, works of art, models, pictures, photographs, plats, maps, films, and motion pictures, including, but not limited to, audio, audiovisual, or other electronic or mechanical recordations.

(2) The term “Presidential records” means documentary materials, or any reasonably seg­regable portion thereof, created or received by the President, his immediate staff, or a unit or individual of the Executive Office of the President whose function is to advise and assist the President, in the course of conducting activities which relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President. Such term—

(A) includes any documentary materials relating to the political activities of the President or members of his staff, but only if such activities relate to or have a direct effect upon the carrying out of constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President; but

(B) does not include any documentary materials that are (i) official records of an agency (as defined in section 552 (e) [1] of title 5, United States Code);
(ii) personal records;
(iii) stocks of publications and stationery; or
(iv) extra copies of documents produced only for convenience of reference, when such copies are clearly so identified.

(3) The term “personal records” means all documentary; materials, or any reasonably segregable portion therof,[2] of a purely private or nonpublic character which do not relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President. Such term includes—

(A) diaries, journals, or other personal notes serving as the functional equivalent of a diary or journal which are not prepared or utilized for, or circulated or communicated in the course of, transacting Government business;

(B) materials relating to private political associations, and having no relation to or direct effect upon the carrying out of constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President; and

(C) materials relating exclusively to the PresidentÂ’s own election to the office of the Presidency; and materials directly relating to the election of a particular individual or individuals to Federal, State, or local office, which have no relation to or direct effect upon the carrying out of constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President.

(4) The term “Archivist” means the Archivist of the United States.

(5) The term “former President”, when used with respect to Presidential records, means the former President during whose term or terms of office such Presidential rec­ords were created.

Well, at least in the definitions the records of the First Lady aren't mentioned.

19 posted on 08/14/2007 6:26:13 AM PDT by CaptRon (Pedicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: originalbuckeye
Which is why the (stupid) electorate will probably vote for her in droves come the ‘08 election. With the Clintons involved, this is a world gone mad. The election will come down to star power. Hillary! has it, none of the GOPers except Fred Thompson (who will be drawn and quartered by the media) do.
20 posted on 08/14/2007 6:26:48 AM PDT by chimera
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