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1 posted on 07/09/2007 11:09:31 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3
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There is more to this that meets the eye.


2 posted on 07/09/2007 11:12:44 AM PDT by boomop1 (there you go again)
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Although the parents should probably not have mentioned the child’s condition if they didn’t want a negative reaction, the attitude of the park owner is stunning. Does he think that everyone with AIDS or HIV announces their status before jumping into the pool? He and his guests have probably swam with other folks with HIV and just didn’t know it.


3 posted on 07/09/2007 11:13:00 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA (Never argue with an idiot. He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience)
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A couple of days ago my daughter’s swim team cancelled their daily workouts when a tyke getting a lesson in the shallow end had an “accident” in the pool.

Someone should post a pic of the Snickers Bar scene from Caddy Shack.


4 posted on 07/09/2007 11:13:50 AM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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As a property rights issue, I think that business owners should be allowed to turn away customers.
6 posted on 07/09/2007 11:14:11 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Progressives like to keep doing the things that didn't work in the past.)
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Oh, ugh. Apparently the foster mother here ran her mouth about the child’s HIV status, and the owner of the place told her he needed some documentation about safety before letting the child use common facilities. Offended by the request, she then went to the media to air her grievance.


7 posted on 07/09/2007 11:14:42 AM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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Too bad for the child, but I don’t blame the park owner, a lawyer may argue differently.


9 posted on 07/09/2007 11:15:43 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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Not buying it. How did these people at the RV park happen to find out that this baby has AIDS?

For many reasons I don’t think we’re hearing the truth of this story.


10 posted on 07/09/2007 11:16:43 AM PDT by submarinerswife
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In fact, the matter came up in a casual conversation with a desk clerk when she told the attendant of her plans to adopt the toddler.

The truth of the matter is revealed sometime later in the article. The woman talks too much and offered up information that created a problem where none existed previously.

Madam, would you like some salt to go with your foot, might make it taste better.

11 posted on 07/09/2007 11:18:11 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather.)
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I guess I missed it. How did they find out the child was HIV positive?


14 posted on 07/09/2007 11:20:01 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220
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Sorry to sound cruel, but I wouldn't let my kid anywhere near a pool with a kid with HIV. The health of my child comes before the emotional wellbeing of the infected, or his parents.

It's not the child's fault it got HIV, it's not my fault to not want anything to do with it either.

16 posted on 07/09/2007 11:24:14 AM PDT by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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Neil Young’s Alabama lyrics.

Oh alabama
The devil fools with the best laid plan.
Swing low alabama
You got spare change
You got to feel strange
And now the moment is all that it meant.

Alabama, you got the weight on your shoulders
Thats breaking your back.
Your cadillac has got a wheel in the ditch
And a wheel on the track

Oh alabama
Banjos playing through the broken glass
Windows down in alabama.
See the old folks tied in white ropes
Hear the banjo.
Dont it take you down home?

Alabama, you got the weight on your shoulders
Thats breaking your back.
Your cadillac has got a wheel in the ditch
And a wheel on the track

Oh alabama.
Can I see you and shake your hand.
Make friends down in alabama.
Im from a new land
I come to you and see all this ruin
What are you doing alabama?
You got the rest of the union to help you along
Whats going wrong?


21 posted on 07/09/2007 11:29:29 AM PDT by trumandogz
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Obviously, the child’s happiness is more important than the health of others.


23 posted on 07/09/2007 11:30:38 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Now....ENFORCE EXISTING IMMIGRATION LAWS!!!)
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the Glovers said they were offered an uncomfortable and painful choice: They could either keep Caleb out of the water or leave.

Or the other choice was to potentially expose others to an uncurable and deadly disease that has a lifetime of expensive and extensive treatment without their knowledge or consent.

Maybe the Glovers should be the bad guys in this story.

26 posted on 07/09/2007 11:33:18 AM PDT by pfflier
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...they were offered an uncomfortable and painful choice:

Life should not include painful choices--I say SUE!

30 posted on 07/09/2007 11:40:14 AM PDT by beaversmom
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My understanding is that chlorine kills AIDS/HIV virus outside the body, so a well chlorinated pool is a safer place then a public restroom.


73 posted on 07/09/2007 11:59:06 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Think not of today.)
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Sheer HIV ignorance run amok...


107 posted on 07/09/2007 12:47:34 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (1/27 Wolfhounds...cut in half during the Clinton years.)
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There sure is a great deal of emotion among the “you can’t catch HIV from a pool” crowd in this thread. I’m sorry if you have a reason to feel emotional about it, but that business man has a right to not be as certain about it as you are.

1) It’s not his or my responsibility to prove anything. It's his pool and he's surely aware of the fact that his other guests have their opinions about it.

2) Two year old children poop and pee and spit and bleed and bite people in pools every single day... I don’t swim with them if at all possible, regardless of their HIV status. But knowing they have HIV would definitely weigh heavily on my decision.

3) If you say that you can’t catch HIV in that pool, and yet you don’t even know the chemical status of the pool, then you’re letting your emotions rule you.

What is the...

-Free Chlorine
-Combined Cholorine
-Temperature
-PH
-Cyanuric Acid level

If I know what those are then I can make a better decision regarding the likelihood of a particular virus to propagate in the water. If I don’t know what those are then discretion is more than appropriate.

124 posted on 07/09/2007 1:18:26 PM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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Complicating matters is the fact that 69-year-old Dick Glover suffers from advanced non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. He is expected to have 18 months to live.

Poor man! I'm sure they're wonderful people. The child is sweet. The Mrs. just chatted a bit too much and gave out too much information.

Still, the owner acted responsibly by asking for documentation from a doctor. He also might've worried that the woman would chat more with other people at the pool, and then he would have to deal with complaints from them and maybe even a loss of business.

125 posted on 07/09/2007 1:25:50 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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I’d be more concerned of people not catching it in the water but outside the water. there’s alot of slippery concrete around pools, 2 yr olds do what 2 yr olds do, they wander of a bit, mingle with other 2 yr olds, fall, bleed, ect. A child that young with HIV doesn’t have the knowledge to protect others from themselves.


151 posted on 07/09/2007 4:11:42 PM PDT by mowowie
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More than meets the eye??? I should say so. HIV is a harmless, ubiquitous, passenger retrovirus. HIV does not cause Acquired Immune Disease Syndrome. And AIDS is NOT a sexually-transmitted disease. Eventually you sheeple will wake up,...but when?

Total garbage. The kid can swim with me any day!

183 posted on 07/09/2007 6:51:22 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("You couldn't tame me, but you taught me.................")
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