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Couple: HIV 2 Year Old Barred from Pool
abcnews.go.com ^ | 07/09/07 | abc

Posted on 07/09/2007 11:09:29 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3

Toddler Was Denied Shower Access as Well:

A couple says their vacation was ruined when an RV park owner told them they weren't welcome after discovering their 2-year-old foster son had the HIV virus. Last week, Dick and Silvia Glover went to the Wales West RV Park in Silver Hill, Ala., with their foster son Caleb. When the boy was banned from using the pool and showers, the Glovers said they were offered an uncomfortable and painful choice: They could either keep Caleb out of the water or leave.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aidscrisis; aidsvirus; cdc; communicabledisease; couple; hiv; homosexualagenda; pcdisease; pool; publichealth; rvpark; viniusinvictus
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To: TornadoAlley3

Neil Young’s Alabama lyrics.

Oh alabama
The devil fools with the best laid plan.
Swing low alabama
You got spare change
You got to feel strange
And now the moment is all that it meant.

Alabama, you got the weight on your shoulders
Thats breaking your back.
Your cadillac has got a wheel in the ditch
And a wheel on the track

Oh alabama
Banjos playing through the broken glass
Windows down in alabama.
See the old folks tied in white ropes
Hear the banjo.
Dont it take you down home?

Alabama, you got the weight on your shoulders
Thats breaking your back.
Your cadillac has got a wheel in the ditch
And a wheel on the track

Oh alabama.
Can I see you and shake your hand.
Make friends down in alabama.
Im from a new land
I come to you and see all this ruin
What are you doing alabama?
You got the rest of the union to help you along
Whats going wrong?


21 posted on 07/09/2007 11:29:29 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: TornadoAlley3
LOL! Pandemonium breaks loose!
22 posted on 07/09/2007 11:29:49 AM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Obviously, the child’s happiness is more important than the health of others.


23 posted on 07/09/2007 11:30:38 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Now....ENFORCE EXISTING IMMIGRATION LAWS!!!)
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To: lovecraft

It is ok for you to be cautious. The parents of the child should also be cautious. I am no doctor but I thought people with HIV or AIDS should be careful about picking up things from OTHER people. I would not want the tyke potentially swallowing pool water, etc. An infection or bug that a so-called normal person can handle can endanger someone with compromised immunity. I think.


24 posted on 07/09/2007 11:31:47 AM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: RacerF150

I doubt the two year old baby will be at the pool having sex, giving blood transfusions or sharing dirty needles with the other kids.


25 posted on 07/09/2007 11:32:18 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: TornadoAlley3
the Glovers said they were offered an uncomfortable and painful choice: They could either keep Caleb out of the water or leave.

Or the other choice was to potentially expose others to an uncurable and deadly disease that has a lifetime of expensive and extensive treatment without their knowledge or consent.

Maybe the Glovers should be the bad guys in this story.

26 posted on 07/09/2007 11:33:18 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: trumandogz

From Lynrd Skynrd:

“Well, I mister young sing about her

Well, I heard ole neil put her down

Well, I hope neil young will remember

A southern man dont need him around anyhow”


27 posted on 07/09/2007 11:34:59 AM PDT by Francis McClobber
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To: trumandogz

Show us the money!

28 posted on 07/09/2007 11:35:32 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: A knight without armor
That's the problem, why even risk it? Why not put my child in a cage with an old tiger that hasn't bit anyone for years? Because he just might.

My heart goes out to kids and people that gets this stuff....Jesus hung out with the lepers, I probably couldn't. But after all, that's why HE was Jesus and well, I'm an uncivilized superstitious barbarian. :-)

29 posted on 07/09/2007 11:37:09 AM PDT by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
...they were offered an uncomfortable and painful choice:

Life should not include painful choices--I say SUE!

30 posted on 07/09/2007 11:40:14 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Sig Sauer P220

Well, the easy way out is to carry documentation.

We were in the thumb of MI camping this weekend. We went into town with our Service Dog in training. She had on her vest with a patch stating it. She is very small (11 pounds) and training in hopes of becoming an autism or bipolar helper.

We stopped in a local pizza parlor and when we sat down, the waitress very nicely said that we could not have a dog there. I, just as nicely stated that by law she must allow service dogs. I pulled out the paper from the Department of Justice with the Service Dog rules on it. She took it to the owner and we were allowed to stay, with many apologies. I said that no apologies were needed and we had some GREAT pizza. The dog slept on the floor the entire time.

Now, had we still been asked to leave, we would have left and gone on to the eatery up the street. No reason to make waves, IMO. She is just training and none of us needed her to be safe. However, we would not have been calling the media either!

At Cracker Barrel on the way home, we were told the same and when I stated that she was a Service Dog, no problem. The women at the table behind us made it WELL known that even service dogs should not be allowed in restaurants. The waitress was so graceful about it. She said, “We have settled the litigation on the issue. Now how would you like your eggs.....” LOL! God love her. These dogs must be trained in public and she knew it.


31 posted on 07/09/2007 11:40:18 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: BurbankKarl
The Glovers are good people for at a time of their lives when most have an empty nest to take on the responsibility to foster a baby with HIV. There good works will earn them a wonderful place in God’s Kingdom.
32 posted on 07/09/2007 11:40:32 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: SoftballMominVA
All the park owner asked for was more information from a qualified source, the child's doctor or the county health department.

Despite what the first sentence of the article states, if you read further, it is obvious that the park owner didn't say he wasn't welcome, he said that he needed more information so he could make an informed decision.

It is a tragedy that a child so young has such a horrible disease, but the world does not revolve around him, and you can't expect that everyone else will understand how HIV can or cannot be contracted. It is a relatively rare disease, and it is only prudent for a park owner to require more information before allowing the child with a incurable, fatal disease that he doesn't understand from using the facilities.

The kid's foster parents insist that everyone needs to understand AIDS better but weren't prepared to help educate people, and instead just threw a fit.

33 posted on 07/09/2007 11:42:06 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: trumandogz

You dont wonder how this story ends up on a National network?


34 posted on 07/09/2007 11:42:24 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: trumandogz

Two-year-olds do, however, pee in pools. Bodily fluids, ya know. And if the RV park owner knew the kid had HIV, allowed him to swim, and some other child was infected, guess who would be sued.


35 posted on 07/09/2007 11:42:33 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: trumandogz
Ever been to a public pool before? Notice the cuts, scrapes and bruises on the younger set? How many times have you seen a toddler cut or scrape themselves?

If you answered No and never then you have zero knowledge in the area, and if you answered yes then you obviously care little for the other children in the area.

The pool owner did the right(non-PC) thing.

36 posted on 07/09/2007 11:42:51 AM PDT by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: MarineBrat

it was a BABY RUTH candybar.


37 posted on 07/09/2007 11:43:48 AM PDT by 66-442hot (It isn't smart to kill the golden goose........)
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To: BurbankKarl

Cruella DeVille and Lenin?


38 posted on 07/09/2007 11:44:00 AM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: Ouderkirk

The problem wasn’t her mentioning it, it was the ignorant RV parks reaction to that information.

He/She has set himself up for a discrimination lawsuit that he will lose and likely cost him his park.


39 posted on 07/09/2007 11:44:13 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: RacerF150
Obviously, the child’s happiness is more important than the health of others.

Please provide one documented case where a person contracted HIV from swimming in a pool.

I bet with the vast source on information at your fingertips that you willl not be able to find even one case.

40 posted on 07/09/2007 11:45:10 AM PDT by trumandogz
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