Group Responds to Cal Thomas' Muslim Remarks

WTOP ^ | July 4, 2007 | WTOP staff

[Baladas]

WASHINGTON -- Recent remarks from WTOP commentator Cal Thomas have sparked controversy in the Muslim-American community. Now, an Islamic advocacy group is responding to Thomas' commentary.

In his weekly commentary on WTOP Radio Monday, Cal Thomas discussed the recent thwarted terror attacks in the United Kingdom.

"How much longer should we allow people from certain lands, with certain beliefs to come to Britain and America and build their mosques, teach hate, and plot to kill us?" Thomas asked. "Okay, lets have the required disclaimer: Not all Muslims from the Middle East and southeast Asia want to kill us, but those who do blend in with those who don't. Would anyone tolerate a slow-spreading cancer because it wasn't fast-spreading? Probably not. You'd want it removed."

Thomas' commentary prompted the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) to urge its supporters to contact WTOP and voice their concerns. WTOP received many calls and emails from both sides.

On Wednesday, WTOP invited Ibrahim Hooper, a CAIR spokesperson and Cal Thomas, to separately respond to Thomas' previous comments.

"For him, I would imagine that his next step is the expulsion of the Muslim-American community," Hooper said. "We condemn extremism. We've condemned terrorism....We've issued dozens of condemnations on dozens of terrorism attacks."

"But guys like [Cal] Thomas come along and want to say every Muslim should be suspect and should be treated in a certain way. That's not just and that's not the American way," Hooper said.

When negative incidents occur, such as the Danish cartoon controversy and the desecration of Korans at Guantanamo Bay, Hooper said CAIR focuses on educational campaigns and "things that really explain who Islam is all about so that they don't have to take their misinformation from Islamaphobes like Cal Thomas."

[Baladas]

LOL, the terrorist said "Islamaphobe".

Tolerate CAIR, JOOOOOOOOOO lovers, or they'll kill you!

[VOA]

bump

[TornadoAlley3]

Every Muslim should be suspect.

[Man50D]

"But guys like [Cal] Thomas come along and want to say every Muslim should be suspect and should be treated in a certain way.

It's called profiling and should have been implemented a long time ago.

[Farmer Dean]

Maybe ,just maybe the next logical step IS the expulsion of the the Muslims in America.If an incident like the Beslin school slaughter happens here,most Muslims will be hard pressed to escape with their lives.

[dsc]

Not only should we stop allowing Mooselimbs in, we should eject the ones that are already here.

[ClearCase_guy]

I think we should embrace Diversity. Diversity makes us stronger. That’s why I am thrilled that some folks in the media are not drinking the kool-aid and actually have the courage to state the obvious: Islam is a source of evil in our world. That’s an uncommon viewpoint — but all views have value. Don’t cha know.

[sweetiepiezer]

Videoes are the best way to undestand this sad reality...

Investigation INSIDE a british mosque :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peFQWuk4nuo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuCLC8kjWCI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5t5EqWX92k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMztM0Z7BYE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4Zv3BUmwqs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvjvNScmTQA

OTHER VIDEO

Muslims openly calling for murders of British and American people in the streets of... London...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_kyNIevsIs&eurl=

How do you reach these people?

http://leblogdrzz.over-blog.com/article-11136984.html

VIDEO : how works the islamic brainwashing of children :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b2QhQQpHck

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wwoGtHAG8IQ&mode=related&search=

[sport]

Not only should we stop allowing Mooselimbs in, we should eject the ones that are already here.

6 posted on 07/04/2007 2:44:53 PM PDT by dsc

There is coming a time in the near future that the United States will rue the day they did not do just that.

[Man50D]

Hooper said CAIR focuses on educational campaigns and "things that really explain who Islam is all about so that they don't have to take their misinformation from Islamaphobes like Cal Thomas."

The following article reveals waht Islam si all about.

Islamic Scholar Warns U.S. of 'Two-Faced' Muslims

NewsMax.com Wires

Thursday, June 20, 2002

WASHINGTON – A leader of the small worldwide Muslim reform movement is warning the West against wishful thinking as the U.S. government promotes an intensive dialogue with Islam.

"The dialogue is not proceeding well because of the two-facedness of most Muslim interlocutors on the one hand and the gullibility of well-meaning Western idealists on the other," Bassam Tibi said Tuesday in an interview with United Press International.

Syrian-born Tibi, who claims to be a direct descendant of the prophet Mohammed and teaches political science at Goettingen University in Germany, appealed for intellectual honesty in these exchanges.

This Is 'Peace'?

"First, both sides should acknowledge candidly that although they might use identical terms these mean different things to each of them. The word 'peace,' for example, implies to a Muslim the extension of the Dar al-Islam – or 'House of Islam' – to the entire world," explained Tibi, who is also a research scholar at Harvard University.

"This is completely different from the Enlightenment concept of eternal peace that dominates Western thought, a concept developed by Immanuel Kant," an 18th-century philosopher.

This Is 'Tolerance'?

"Similarly, when Muslims and the Western heirs of the Enlightenment speak of tolerance they have different things in mind. In Islamic terminology, this term implies abiding non-Islamic monotheists, such as Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians, as second-class believers. They are 'dhimmi,' a protected but politically immature minority."

According to Tibi, the quest of converting the entire world to Islam is an immutable fixture of the Muslim worldview. Only if this task is accomplished, if the world has become a "Dar al-Islam," will it also be a "Dar a-Salam," or a house of peace.

Tibi appealed to his co-religionists to "revise their understanding of peace and tolerance by accepting pluralism." Furthermore, he said, Muslim leaders should give up the notion of Jihad in the sense of conquest, as opposed to Jihad as an internal struggle of the individual.

Liberal Mush

Tibi's advice comes at a time when the U.S. government is urging American Muslim leaders to promote understanding for the United States in Islamic regions. To Tibi, this is more of a diplomatic endeavor than the promotion of a more profound theological understanding between Islam and the Judeo-Christian worldview prevalent in the West.

But Muzammil Siddiqi, one senior Islamic scholar the State Department consults with, told UPI he found that his efforts in furthering contacts between Muslim, Christian and Jewish theologians were having some success.

Indian-born Siddiqi is the director of the large Islamic Center of Orange County in California. In consultation with the State Department and in cooperation with the University of Kentucky, he traveled back and forth between the United States and the Middle East trying to convince Muslim theologians and jurists to meet with American church leaders.

"I have found that many, though not all, were ready to welcome visitors from America and also to come here to explore with Christians and Jews what we have in common," Siddiqi said.

Though Siddiqi's center is heavily engaged in interfaith activities, he made it clear that to him, as indeed for conservative Christians, syncretism – the mixing of religions – was anathema.

Common values should be sought out, he explained, and the equality of all believers respected, be they Muslims, Christians, Hindus or Buddhists. But the purity of the faith must not be compromised.

In an article in the prestigious Hamburg weekly Die Zeit, Tibi gave anecdotal evidence of how daunting a task this dialogue with Islam can be.

Staring in Horror at the Bible

The bishop of Hildesheim in Germany paid an imam a courtesy visit in his mosque. The imam handed the Catholic prelate a Koran, which he joyfully accepted. But when the bishop tried to present the imam with a Bible, the Muslim cleric just stared at him in horror and refused to even touch Christianity's holy book.

"The bishop was irritated because he perceived this behavior as a gross discourtesy," wrote Tibi, "but the imam had only acted according to his faith. For if an imam gives a bishop a Koran, he considers this a Da'Wa, or call to Islam."

This, explained Tibi, must be borne in mind when one engages in a dialogue with Muslim "scholars," for it corresponds to a verse in the Koran: "And say ... to those who are unlearned: 'Do ye submit yourselves?'" (Surah 3:20).

[Paperdoll]

Diversity will be our downfall. Multi-culturalism is the death knoll for a free Republic under God. If immigrants cannot assimilate into the American culture, they should not be granted citizenship. Period.

[personalaccts]

Muslimss are the biggest babies.

1. If you attack them they cry *itch, moan, and groan.
(yet they’ll blow you *ss up when you least expect it)
2. If you torture them they cry Uncle
(they’ll your head off if you refuse to ride the magic carpet 5 times per day)
3. If you draw a picture of their fear-less leader they *itch, moan, and groan.
(yet they’ll chop your head off when you’re not looking)

[Reagan Man]

Screw CAIR and Ibrahim Hooper.

[gridlock]

"For him, I would imagine that his next step is the expulsion of the Muslim-American community," Hooper said. "We condemn extremism. We've condemned terrorism....We've issued dozens of condemnations on dozens of terrorism attacks."

Well, since it has now be revealed that CAIR could hold it's annual convention in a phone booth, with room to spare, the relevant question is what the fat cats who fund their multi-million dollar budget feel about terrorism and extremism.

I would assume that the people who fund CAIR do not condemn terrorism and extremism at all, but find it useful to have somebody to put a "smiley face" on the Jihad.

[ClearCase_guy]

I agree completely.

It's the true proponents of "diversity" that would work to stamp out such views, and punish the people who hold such views. The irony seems to escape them.

[Baladas]

Here’s one video of what Cal Thomas said:

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/2535.html

Jihad’s on!

[Beckwith]

From the website "Ask the Imam."

To become a citizen of US one has to take an oath of allegiance. is it ok to take the oath?

The oath of allegiance is as follows: I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God. They also ask on the citizenship form the following questions: If the law requires it, are you willing to bear arms on behalf of US? If the law requires it, are you willing to perform noncombatant service in the US Armed Forces? If the law requires it, are you willing to perform work of national importance under civilian direction? My question is can we answer yes to these questions? is there anything wrong in doing that. what should the answer be: yes or no? could you please kindly give an urgent answer. jazakallah. Answer 8471 2003-04-25

As Muslims, we are duty bound to follow our lives strictly according to Shari’ah. Whatever Shari’ah allows us to do, we will abide by that and whatever Shari’ah has restricted us from, we will refrain from it. Hence, we are not allowed to obey anybody if it is resulting in the disobedience of the Creator, Allah. Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, ‘There is no obedience for the creation by disobeying the Creator.’ (Mirqaat vol.7 pg.217; Imdadiyyah).

Hence, keeping this in mind if one is forced to sign the above in order to become a citizen or the only way of attaining citizenship is by acknowledging the above, then one may sign it with the intention that Shari’ah and Deen will always be his yardstick and that he will never sacrifice any of the teachings of Deen.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai

I have always been a tolerant person -- not anymore.

[Blogger]

They have made “dozens” of condemnations? When? I have heard VERY LITTLE out of them. Even if they had, one need only go to http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ and see the latest tally to see that “dozens” of condemnations should be “Thousands” and actions speak louder than words.

[SkyDancer]

ELAL (Israeli) airlines does exactly that ... that’s why they’ve never had a hijacking or have been blown up .....

[ChocChipCookie]

I love Cal Thomas’s response to these guys.