Posted on 05/24/2007 6:03:30 AM PDT by Rebeleye
...he was stunned to see two large Confederate flags flying from trucks...emblazoned with the words "The South Shall Rise Again." I'm stunned, too, that people still think it is cool to fly this flag. Our society should bury these flags -- not flaunt them...because the Confederate flag symbolizes racial tyranny to so many... ...This flag doesn't belong on city streets, in videos or in the middle of civil discussion. It belongs in our past -- in museums and in history books -- along with the ideas it represents.
(Excerpt) Read more at kansas.com ...
Sure, go for the 'don't-shoot-the-messenger' angle. :-)
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I love quotes too. Particularly ones from the Founders concerning the Constitutional compact:
"If every infraction of a compact of so many parties is to be resisted at once as a dissolution, none can ever be formed which would last one year. We must have patience and longer endurance then with our brethren while under delusion; give them time for reflection and experience of consequences; keep ourselves in a situation to profit by the chapter of accidents; and separate from our companions only when the sole alternatives left are the dissolution of our Union with them or submission to a government without limitation of powers. Between these two evils, when we must make a choice, there can be no hesitation. But in the meanwhile, the States should be watchful to note every material usurpation on their rights; to denounce them as they occur in the most peremptory terms; to protest against them as wrongs to which our present submission shall be considered, not as acknowledgments or precedents of right, but as a temporary yielding to the lesser evil, until their accumulation shall overweigh that of separation."
Thomas Jefferson to William Branch Giles, 1825. ME 16:148
I'm not aware of any quotes by Davis indicating that. And Lee's opposition to slavery was mild at best, but he was still prepared to see it go on for decades if not centuries if that was what he believed God's will was.
In the last ten months of the war, the South seriously discussed arming slaves with the promise they’d be free men after hostilities ended. They never did it, but the fact it was discussed repeatedly in their Congress is recorded fact.
Arming slaves had been proposed several times during the war and had idea had always been met with horror. It's telling to note that even at the end in March 1865 when the confederate congress finally bit the bullet and agreed to enlist free blacks and slaves as combat soliders the legislation authorizing it specifically refused to free slaves that served.
States Rights, primarily.
States' "rights" to do what? Secede to prove they had the "right" to secede? The "right" not to abide by the results of an election they participated in? What "right" was burning so fervently besides the "right" to maintain slavery in the face of a Republican administration seeking to limit its expansion Westward?
‘I guess they didn’t learn from the Revolution, either, wherein at least finally Washington stopped bowing to every equivocating suggestion from Congress.’
Nope, which is why the incompent and/or corrupt Northrup was in charge of logistics for the South til almost the very end. Its telling after he was replaced Lee had plenty of food and armaments waiting him just past Appromatox.
Alas, too late. Custers boy’s ate well.
Very interesting. The south put up a good fight, though, as out gunned and outmanned as they were.
Alvin York's family was a Union family in the Civil War. Alvin's grandfather Uriah York was a soldier in the Union army who was harassed by local Confederate riffraff in Fentress County Tennessee. With his family history, I'd be surprised if Alvin York would want to put the rebel flag on anything he owned.
The what???
Bad eyesight (myopia) runs in the family, but we haven't had a case of strabismus in 3-4 generations.
The Battle Hymn was written by a woman using John Brown as her inspiration.
John Brown WAS not above terrorizing people of all kinds who got in his way.
LOL!
What is that???
Hey, good to see you back here! Invite some of the other exiles to test the water again. With the coven gone it’s much easier to speak freely. No more liberal thought police.
And I agree with your post here.
Great quote, to be sure. Its easy to forget that Jefferson’s own hand set up the primary reasons the Civil War took place 80 years later when you read his thoughts as in this passage.
We tend to forget they were just men, with all the foibles associated.
Naw, The RNC has determined we need to flood the country with Mexicans for that sort of stuff
“most if not all of the left is ashamed to be human....”
How can the left be ashamed to be what it is not!?!
But the buzzards dined better. ;-)
‘I’m not aware of any quotes by Davis indicating that.’
I’m currently rereading Foote’s masterpiece ‘narrative’. I’ll try to remember to look it up and give you the time frame and circumstances.
From your lips to Gods ears. I never thought about it like that. We are the last bastion of conservatism in America and the left is trying to get us to surrender again. We are called the Bible Belt. They hate Christainity. We stand against things like gay marriage and abortion, etc. We believe in States Rights and America as a sovereign nation, not to be diluted with people who don’t love her like we do. Yep, I can see why the north hates us.
Excellent, excellent post.
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