Posted on 05/24/2007 6:03:30 AM PDT by Rebeleye
...he was stunned to see two large Confederate flags flying from trucks...emblazoned with the words "The South Shall Rise Again." I'm stunned, too, that people still think it is cool to fly this flag. Our society should bury these flags -- not flaunt them...because the Confederate flag symbolizes racial tyranny to so many... ...This flag doesn't belong on city streets, in videos or in the middle of civil discussion. It belongs in our past -- in museums and in history books -- along with the ideas it represents.
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States don't have rights. People have rights. Governments, State or Fed, have only powers delegated by the people.
Good comebacks both - and I agree with your points 100%.
At the root of it, libs use their speech stifling techniques, i.e. demonizing the detractors, to stifle the message - In this case states rights and individual freedom. I suppose my point is your rhetoric should not make you such an easy target.
This is a bit disingenuous. The South shipped raw cotton overseas (primarily to England), where it was used to produced finished cotton goods (textiles, clothing, etc.) which were imported to the U.S. under heavy tariffs. The demand for the South’s raw cotton was a “derived demand,” dependent ultimately on the demand for the finished cotton goods produced from it. So, a tariff on imported, finished cotton goods reduced the demand for the South’s raw cotton.
Let's say for a moment that what you are saying is true. Even so, it would make all this stuff lost causers say about the tyrannical Lincoln and the freedom-loving South a whole lot of horse-hockey.
That said, go read what LS and his co-author wrote about it. There is no comparison.
No you are wrong. It means we want to be seen as equal to the elitist northeast. It means we don’t want to be called ignorant trash and dumb hillbillies with 2 teeth. It means our people are just as damn good as the rest of the country. The confederate flag is a symbol of southern pride, nothing more. Its hated by the north because they want to keep southerners inferior.
‘It’s easy to look back after 140 years and see that slavery was a doomed institution. But I’m not aware of any Southern leader of the time who thought slavery was destined for an early end.’
Jefferson Davis wrote as much, and Lee stated numerous times his view was much the same, except he qualified it with the realization concerning ‘their current state of development’ which I took to mean education.
In the last ten months of the war, the South seriously discussed arming slaves with the promise they’d be free men after hostilities ended. They never did it, but the fact it was discussed repeatedly in their Congress is recorded fact.
“Logistics was at the heart of why the South didnt win its Independence. Their own logistics were undermined by the extreme states rights stance the South incorporated via their version of the Constitution. In short, that extreme viewpoint planted the seeds of the Confederates ultimate defeat.”
I guess they didn’t learn from the Revolution, either, wherein at least finally Washington stopped bowing to every equivocating suggestion from Congress.
And yet the Rev boys were MUCH worse off.
So true. If they would worry half as much about the mexican flag or the gay pride flag as they do the Confederate flag, we might actually solve some serious problems.
Good for you! Now thats what I call true diversity. Americans taking pride in American symbols.
Well, I think that's a bit over-stated.
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Amendment XIV, Sec. 2: Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.
Nothing there about being a legal citizen. I don't recall if the last Census form I filled out asked.
Very well put. Thank you.
It's a shame that so many in the Ssouth are so concentrated on defending the South that they fail to see the the slaveowners' Confederacy was a creation for the slaveowners, by the slaveowners and of the slaveowners. It was nothing more than an engine of oppression of all others for the benefit of the plantation class.
I'll defend all the good things about the south, including even the honest but misled reb soldiers, but the pro-slavery politicians' regime is not worthy of respect.
Just to prove that anyone can buy and fly any flag to try to drum up support! The founder the KKK left after it became the monster that we know!
Not necessarily since the U.S. was not the only, or even the largest consumer of the output of the UK textile industry. They also enjoyed the advantage of being the closest and largest supplier of raw cotton. Demand for their produce was high and as a result the U.S. tariff couldn't have had much effect on their exports, if it had any effect at all.
Southerners and Christians are the only groups who are not allowed to honor their heritage in this PC world. Every nation, religion, and ethnic group has a history of slavery and worse if you go far enough back.
I'm definitely putting a General Grant on my moedlling to do list.
If you want to get really technical about it, she's my fifth or sixth cousin three times removed, I forget which.
Arf!
The flags to be feared most in regards to neo-slavery and the assault upon both poor and middle class American’s, is the flag of Mexico,snuggled up in the arms of the stars and stripes.
South of the border is the south that is threatening our way of life today, and our Federal government(Democrat and Republican) is it’s most devoted ally.
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