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What Does It Mean "The South Shall Rise Again":
The Wichita (KS) Eagle ^ | 23 May 2007 | Mark McCormick

Posted on 05/24/2007 6:03:30 AM PDT by Rebeleye

...he was stunned to see two large Confederate flags flying from trucks...emblazoned with the words "The South Shall Rise Again." I'm stunned, too, that people still think it is cool to fly this flag. Our society should bury these flags -- not flaunt them...because the Confederate flag symbolizes racial tyranny to so many... ...This flag doesn't belong on city streets, in videos or in the middle of civil discussion. It belongs in our past -- in museums and in history books -- along with the ideas it represents.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
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To: FredHunter08
What was in the Constitution agreed to by all the colonies in 1783? The above.

So that's what the South meant when they said they were trying to preserve the Constitution?

Lincoln didn’t fight the war to end slavery. If you had clue one you’d understand that.

No, he fought it to preserve the Union and because war was the path that Jefferson Davis chose. The question really is why the South chose armed rebellion in the first place and defense of their institution of slavery was by far the most important reason for their decision.

101 posted on 05/24/2007 7:04:35 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: FredHunter08

Yeah OK, that makes allot of sense.


102 posted on 05/24/2007 7:05:11 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Rebeleye

The La Raza clan shout about Aztlan. Isn’t that a notion of “The South Is Gonna Rise Again”?

Different South but very racially motivated (The Race is doing the shouting) and territorial.

With media portrayals of backwood hicks with bad accents (by strangely non-southern actors), there seem to be some in America intent on keeping the people of the Southern states down.


103 posted on 05/24/2007 7:05:19 AM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: frithguild

If ya’ll want to burn Atlanta again, go for it. It is full of liberals.


104 posted on 05/24/2007 7:05:55 AM PDT by U S Army EOD
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To: RegulatorCountry
You do know who insisted upon that whole 2/3 thing, don't you? (Hint: it wasn't southerners)

Ummm. You think it was the Northerners who insisted on keeping 1/3 of the South's population in bondage? I think you are confusing NS's point about the Southern population free/slave ratio with the 3/5th clause in the Constitution.

105 posted on 05/24/2007 7:06:26 AM PDT by LexBaird (PR releases are the Chinese dog food of political square meals.)
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To: HEY4QDEMS

“Yeah OK, that makes allot of sense.”

Just as much sense as your statement.


106 posted on 05/24/2007 7:07:03 AM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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To: FredHunter08

Man, you are so off base with me on this topic we should just stop now.


107 posted on 05/24/2007 7:07:07 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: noname07718
History of the Confederate Battle Flag
108 posted on 05/24/2007 7:08:24 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Rebeleye
I wanted to name my youngest son after Joshua Chamberlain. If I can look at that flag without getting a bur under my saddle, anybody should be able to.

That said, "The South shall rise again" may be the dumbest slogan in american history.

109 posted on 05/24/2007 7:08:32 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: Badeye
“Man, you are so off base with me on this topic we should just stop now.”

I’m off base over what?

My statement as to the advantage the North had?

Logistics won the day for the North. Yes, that was something Grant recognized. My point was that the industry that drove that military machine was run on what we would now call “slavery”.

110 posted on 05/24/2007 7:09:22 AM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

‘No, he fought it to preserve the Union and because war was the path that Jefferson Davis chose. The question really is why the South chose armed rebellion in the first place and defense of their institution of slavery was by far the most important reason for their decision.’

A quote attributed to Longstreet comes to mind;

‘We should have freed all the slaves, THEN fired on Ft Sumnter.’

Had they done so, I think America today would likely resemble Europe, with a half dozen ‘countries’.


111 posted on 05/24/2007 7:10:13 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: LexBaird
“You think it was the Northerners who insisted on keeping 1/3 of the South’s population in bondage? “

You think the Northern slave traders (all those shipping companies....) had a problem with it?

You think the average Northerner had a problem with it? You might want to consider the laws in many Northern states prior to the War of Northern Aggression.

112 posted on 05/24/2007 7:10:53 AM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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To: LexBaird; RegulatorCountry
I believe that RC mistaken thought your statement was a reference to the great compromise.
113 posted on 05/24/2007 7:10:55 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: LexBaird
You think it was the Northerners who insisted on keeping 1/3 of the South's population in bondage?

The northern industrial complex benefitted mightily, due to the labor of those in bondage. Outside of radical abolitionists, who were quite fringe even in the north in the years leading up to war, I see nothing in history to indicate a lack of willingess to profit thusly. So, what's your point?

114 posted on 05/24/2007 7:11:02 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: FredHunter08

‘Logistics won the day for the North. Yes, that was something Grant recognized. My point was that the industry that drove that military machine was run on what we would now call “slavery”.’

Sounds like a rationalization.


115 posted on 05/24/2007 7:11:12 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Non-Sequitur

Gotta love the Onion........


116 posted on 05/24/2007 7:11:12 AM PDT by captjanaway
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To: KarlInOhio
On the other hand, when I see a bunch of people waving the confederate battle flag I get the urge to buy a Dodge Charger, paint it dark blue with a 35 star Union flag on the top, and wire it's horn to play the Battle Hymm of the Republic. I'll name it the General Grant.

Hmmmm...I think you just gave me an idea for a modeling project. I'm wondering what color I should paint it...

117 posted on 05/24/2007 7:11:29 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: TonyRo76

Your post #7 is absolutely right. Well said!


118 posted on 05/24/2007 7:11:51 AM PDT by Moonmad27
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To: RegulatorCountry
Well, well ... aren't you just a ball of confusion this morning. You do know who insisted upon that whole 2/3 thing, don't you? (Hint: it wasn't southerners)

No, it was the North. And before you apply any sort of noble purpose to the Southern desire to have each slave counted as a whole person, their sole reason was to increase their disproportionate representation in Congress. Slaves didn't vote and didn't have any rights. In the South they were property, not people. It was highly hypocritical of the Southern leadership to demand they be counted as such for crass political purposes. The 3/5ths limit was a compromise. Considering their status they probably shouldn't have been counted at all.

You'll also notice that the South kept the 3/5th clause in their own constitution. I guess they decided it wasn't that bad, huh?

119 posted on 05/24/2007 7:12:19 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
“Ah ain’t no ways tahrrred of that flag.”

Who was it that said she sounded like Granny Clampett trying to get on American Idol?

120 posted on 05/24/2007 7:12:29 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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