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JIM ROBINSON AS THE NEW JOSEPH FARAH - STABBING THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT IN THE BACK [Re:Giuliani]
On one the few rational minds left around here - but for long | 4/24/2007 | Al Simmons

Posted on 04/24/2007 10:22:39 AM PDT by Al Simmons

About me:

Lurker - since 1998

Member - since 1999

In self-imposed exile - since April 2007

The tone of the debate and the attacks on long-time fellow Freepers for the cardinal sin of daring to support Rudy Giuliani in early 2007 around here have really saddened me. Instead of fighting the enemy FR is now imposing an 'ideological purity' test on FR members. The well-oiled train has gone off the rails and Mr. Robinson risks becoming the next Joe Farah - a fellow who started a great website for conservative news and opinions, but who gradually drifted off to la-la land, losing all credibility - and readership - in the process.

He has set himself squarely in the Internet media spotlight, doused himself with gasoline, and and lighted himself on fire - a fact that has not escaped the attention of the left-wing lunatics at Daily Kos. Their reporting on what has been going on at FR is perhaps the first factually true account published on their site.

Jim, if that quote of yours about setting up an organization to 'Swiftboat Rudy' is accurate as quoted in their article, the only thing I have to say to you is that you ought to be ashamed of yourself, as you have now become the back-stabber of the conservative cause.

If you wish to marginalize this site by turning it into a narrow "several-issue" forum, that is your right. Just as it is my right to choose to not participate here any longer.

But you will be disappointed if you think that the crude, illiterate "goon squad" you have allowed free rein around here (dmw, narses, dirtboy, extremely extreme extremist, ReaganMan and several others - if I have slighted anyone, please email me if you want onto this list) will elevate the level of intellectual debate.

The result has been predictably in the other direction. That is what happens when you hire a bunch of brown shirts to enforce your own brand of political correctness.

Well, guess what? Politics is 99% BS and one can quite nicely live one's life without the need to bloviate about it. I know how I am going to vote. I could care less about anyone else. Life is too short to waste my time around here when I am clearly one of those made to feel like they are not welcome.

So, go ahead Jim -

MAKE MY DAY. BAN ME. I DARE YOU.


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To: engrpat
Rudy is a liberal wolf in conservative clothing.

Perhaps if he's only wearing a pair of womens thong panties.
101 posted on 04/24/2007 1:06:10 PM PDT by mutley
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To: Al Simmons

I’m more conservative than Giuliani, but I support him anyway at this point. He’s the most conservative candidate that has a good shot at winning. Also, he won’t wimp out because of whithering attacks from the left.

If Fred Thompson enters the race, I may reevaluate my views. But at this point, I look at the candidates and come to a few conclusions:

1. McCain likes to look good in the media, so he will probably pull a David Souter if elected.

2. Romney is probably more liberal than Giuliani.

3. No other Republican currently running has a good shot at winning.

I don’t think Mr. Robinson will ban me for that honest opinion.


102 posted on 04/24/2007 1:06:34 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: beer

103 posted on 04/24/2007 1:07:01 PM PDT by beeber (Guilliani/Simmons '08)
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To: Al Simmons

IATZ. Bye bye, fool.


104 posted on 04/24/2007 1:08:00 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: Al Simmons
Meltdown before the ZOT alert!


105 posted on 04/24/2007 1:08:33 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: Al Simmons

IBTZ!


106 posted on 04/24/2007 1:08:52 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (A proud member of the Frederalist society.)
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To: Al Simmons

Well now you're in FR hell.

And I'll clog this thread up with useless graphics.

107 posted on 04/24/2007 1:09:00 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: Al Simmons

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108 posted on 04/24/2007 1:09:10 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: mutley

LOL, very good. I wondered the other day if I would be forced to vote for either a man that wears a dress or a woman wears pants....these are interesting times we live in.


109 posted on 04/24/2007 1:09:27 PM PDT by engrpat
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To: Al Simmons
lighted himself on fire

"lit himself on fire" .... If you are going to commit seppuku on FR .... please use correct spelling.

110 posted on 04/24/2007 1:10:55 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: Al Simmons
Crying about it might help.

Beat it, loser.
111 posted on 04/24/2007 1:11:07 PM PDT by Antoninus (I won't vote for a liberal, regardless of party....)
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To: Al Simmons
I love this:

of fighting the enemy FR is now imposing an 'ideological purity' test on FR members

So, if this means anything, it means (A) you believe there is an enemy, but (B) you do not believe in identifying him by ideology.

Hm.

So, what does that leave? Skin-color? Sex? Income? Weight?

112 posted on 04/24/2007 1:12:12 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Al Simmons
Quite frankly, you and your fellow red-meaters are frikken NUTS for putting all your eggs into one basket this early in the election cycle. The election is in November of 2008---more than 18 months away---which is at least six different lifetimes in this hyper media age.

I'm skeptical of anyone who supports a candidate with such vigor this early in the race---it makes me think that person has a vested interest in the outcome (wink wink, nudge nudge). Because as we all know, retail politics is complete bullsh*t.

113 posted on 04/24/2007 1:12:38 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Centurion2000
CLOSE THE BORDER NOW!

No more Burritos for Al Simmons!
114 posted on 04/24/2007 1:13:08 PM PDT by beeber (Guilliani/Simmons '08)
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To: Al Simmons

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115 posted on 04/24/2007 1:13:19 PM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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To: Al Simmons

Al, I agree with you!

So many conservatives need to have their whole package - but, in modern politics, that’s never going to happen.

So, these narrowly focused conservatives have an opportunity to:
1) sit out elections
2) vote for the democrat nominee
3) vote for the republican nominee
4) or, divide the non-democrat voting population, to assure that a RAT gets elected, ala Perot for Clintoon.

All this talk that’s directed to abortion, religion, flat tax is not the real issue!
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The real issue is which presidential individual will not be cowering like a baby under his Oval Office desk, once the jihadists decide that little Mohammed’s bomb belt is not destructive enough, and decide to drop a nuc on civilization!

In that context, Rudy holds up pretty well!


116 posted on 04/24/2007 1:13:22 PM PDT by aShepard (Oh little Mohammad, kouchy, kouchy, koo, Your momma is so proud,you'll be the cutest suicide bomber!)
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To: Al Simmons
[CORRECTED]

I love this:

Instead of fighting the enemy FR is now imposing an 'ideological purity' test on FR members

So, if this means anything, it means (A) you believe there is an enemy, but (B) you do not believe in identifying him by ideology.

Hm.

So, what does that leave? Skin-color? Age? Income? Weight?

117 posted on 04/24/2007 1:13:26 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: engrpat
LOL, very good. I wondered the other day if I would be forced to vote for either a man that wears a dress or a woman wears pants....these are interesting times we live in.

Rmember the character from Saturday night live, Andrgynous Pat. Maybe there will be a candidate like...er...it. Then we wouldn't have to worry about which we were voting for. We would always just wonder!
118 posted on 04/24/2007 1:13:50 PM PDT by mutley
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To: MamaB
I was for Rudy until I started learning about what his views are.

I liked him, until I became 'acquainted' with him.

Once the "Hero of 9-11" facade was peeled away, to get look behind it, the rest of the structure got condemned by the Building Department.

119 posted on 04/24/2007 1:15:12 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Al Simmons
...who gradually drifted off to la-la land, losing all credibility - and readership - in the process.

FR is still a place where we can freely exchange ideas and political view. No one is in "la-la land", and Jim has lost neither credibility, nor readers, especially not ALL, as you put it.

There are many Rudy supporters on this forum, just as there are many ideas and opinions about many issues. You're throwing a tantrum because Jim R. has a different opinion than you do. Grow up.

120 posted on 04/24/2007 1:16:08 PM PDT by Just Lori (Trying to reason with a liberal is like sucking spaghetti through a straw.)
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