Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.
One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.
All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.
FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?
Do you really expect me to do that?
LOL........;0)
ROFL! Good point...
I don’t disagree with your point about personal responsibility. People should take that upon themselves BUT the reality is that they DON’T.
Abortions happen as a result. Simply banning them is not going to change either of those realities. Though it would put children in the hands of people who have ZERO interest in raising them. Is that what you want?
Don’t hold your breath, Grammie. ;-)
That is how I’m reading it. :-(
Oh, I've been reading JustStupid's stuff. I am not going to engage with JustStupid because it has become clear that JustStupid is a pro-abort lunatic. L.U.N.A.T.I.C. It's a waste of time to talk to crazy people.
“Abortions happen as a result. Simply banning them is not going to change either of those realities. Though it would put children in the hands of people who have ZERO interest in raising them. Is that what you want?”
Ever heard of giving up a baby for adoption?
Great minds think alike.
Oh like I have not been insulted on this thread? SHEESH!
You being done shows that you are not willing to engage in any discussion that differs from your own viewpoint.
Fair enough. I don’t want a debate? I am not the one running away. I am answering each post as they come. Just not fast enough to your liking.
Notice how things are revolving around your own liking?
Between then and now, he’s pro-abortion.
Post 8832: “Outlawing abortion finds validity when another option providing the same outcome is available.”
Post 8816: “Maybe the reality is that I am more akin to stopping this than you are. For I am willing to accept other possabilities than just an outright ban to see it accomplished.”
Post 8656: “The right to her own body and decisions about what happens to it. We all should respect each other’s right to our own bodies. Wouldn’t you agree?”
“A woman’s body changes drastically as a result of a full term pregnancy. A female has no right to govern those changes to her own body? You govern those decisions? I do? Government does?”
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All liberal pro-abortion talking points.
“it would put children in the hands of people who have ZERO interest in raising them. Is that what you want?”
Moot point..
There are many more able and loving people yearning to adopt a baby...
Words.
Fail.
Me.
Yep. He/she is an obvious troll and is espousing a macabre scheme that the left wouldn’t even publicly promote.
Corrct NF. We have the transfer option available today. No surgergy necessary! All the mother has to do is “CHOSE” to take that miracle of reproductive life to term!
JS, can you take a minute and respond to this one?
But how in the world do those minor permanent changes (and yes, they are minor when compared to a whole host of other permanent changes that can happen to ones body from disease or injury) outweight the right to life of the unborn child? You claim to recognize two interests, yet you entirely ignore the most important right of all, the right to life.
Haven’t you even noticed that NO ONE agrees with you.
You are NOT a reasonable person and you turn to ‘liberal’ tactics if someone doesn’t agree with your point and want to answer with smarmy and vindictive attacks.
You are a PSYCHO and need HELP!
PLEASE GO AWAY!
excuse my spelling. Fingers move too fast all.
Another liberal, pro-abortion talking point to try to justify abortion.
Abortion is wrong; it's murder.
No way to justify it with *rights*, *choice*, *convenience*, *responsibility*, whatever.
The only alternative to abortion today is to outlaw it, period.
You asked that q at post #8851.
You answered your own question in post #8883.
Justsayin said...
Post 8656: “The right to her own body and decisions about what happens to it. We all should respect each other’s right to our own bodies. Wouldn’t you agree?”
The baby has a right to her own body. its her body not the womans The baby has her own blood circulation separate from the womans, etc. Her heart starts beating before the woman even knows that she is pregnant....
I agree we should respect the baby’s body and not murder her...
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