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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: jedward

The Search Ends Here :

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord;
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword;
His truth is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His truth is marching on.

I have seen Him in the watch fires of a hundred circling camps
They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps;
I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps;
His day is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His day is marching on.

I have read a fiery Gospel writ in burnished rows of steel;
“As ye deal with My contemners, so with you My grace shall deal”;
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with His heel,
Since God is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Since God is marching on.

He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat;
He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment seat;
Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! be jubilant, my feet;
Our God is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Our God is marching on.

In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,
With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me:
As He died to make men holy, let us live to make men free;
[originally …let us die to make men free]
While God is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! While God is marching on.

He is coming like the glory of the morning on the wave,
He is wisdom to the mighty, He is honor to the brave;
So the world shall be His footstool, and the soul of wrong His slave,
Our God is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Our God is marching on.
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8,421 posted on 04/24/2007 10:45:01 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: DCPatriot
Since I know you are friends with many of the liberal freepers, many gone now, I’m going to share something.

I just checked my FR e-mail, which I do about once every five years. There was an e-mail from Peach, written right before she got banned, while she was really raising the roof here. I figured, “I’ll open it and read her insults just for a laugh.” We were always at war, verbally.

It was classy and it was very kind. It was one of the nicest e-mails I’ve ever received, any time, any place. Go figure.

Please do this far right winger a favor at your new site and thank her for me. Tell her I said God bless her, and that that e-mail was very well received. I would consider it a favor. Thanks.

8,422 posted on 04/24/2007 10:45:23 PM PDT by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way.)
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To: gordonliddy

“I’ve often wondered why ... rudy dropped out in 2 - 000 — lazio went unsuccessfully against hillary instead !”

He was way behind in the polls and knew he would lose.

He was afraid to run against Hillary in 06 because he new he would still lose.

Rooty is a gutless puke.


8,423 posted on 04/24/2007 10:46:12 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
He only employs his passion who can make no use of his reason.

Cicero

*smiling*

8,424 posted on 04/24/2007 10:50:23 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

I find this appropriate too:

I Pledge Alligiance to the Flag
of the United States of America,
and to the Republic for which is Stands,
One Nation Under God, Individible,
with Liberty and Justice for All.


8,425 posted on 04/24/2007 10:53:57 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Beagle8U
Rooty is a gutless puke.

Shhhhhhhh.

Don't tell anybody.
8,426 posted on 04/24/2007 10:54:19 PM PDT by dukakis kerry the dream team
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To: jedward

Individible = Indivisible


8,427 posted on 04/24/2007 10:55:40 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: DCPatriot; Jim Robinson

Regarding tenure and effort as security...

There is a whole body of works on “Gift Economies” that have been common in Third-World countries and more recently applied to the Open Source Software movement. A lot of ‘gift economy’ premises are valid about FreeRepublic.

There is a somewhat antithetical concept of “The Tragedy of the Commons” — the concept that people will take selfishly advantage of common areas, various liberties, etc. at the expense of others.

FREEDOM is like that too.

The bigger picture is that, while there is a sense of family and loyalty that hopefully can exist, Liberals and Unions focus primarily on tenure. Conservatives focus on merit.

And the loyalty / tenure-AS-merit premise must be examined carefully in a situation where the ‘family’ very likely has Manchurian Trojans at the dinner table, including some that can wait for a decade before germinating.

It’s a shame that some good people who get too testy get banned. It’s a greater shame that they don’t see the truth and become genuine Conservatives!

But it would be foolish to imagine that all will see the light. The reality is that some seek to neutralize Conservatives. To give them a continued soapbox for subversion is self-destructive, unilateral disarmament in the ideological war.


8,428 posted on 04/24/2007 10:56:05 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: La Enchiladita

Hi Dita,,,gunna read all them posts ??...;0)

(bet she does)...;0)


8,429 posted on 04/24/2007 10:58:29 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Luke21
I can't imagine...after reading your profile page (nice) that you and Peach had an adversarial relationship in the forum.

Your surprise that she wrote you a kind email...well that surprises me.

Maybe I'm the naive one here.

I thought that our shared disdain for the Clintons served as a strong foundation.

The vast majority of the Freepers that have registered at Wideawakes did so because they were unhappy with the changing tone here.

I think many of them thought of WA as an extension of our Smokey Backroom...but maybe I'm wrong.

Please know that you describing me as a liberal freeper has the same effect as using a racial slur.

I don't like it at all. It hurts because I HATE liberals.

8,430 posted on 04/24/2007 11:00:10 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: dukakis kerry the dream team
Sorry, but I’ll tell everyone I can about Rooty and his lifelong record of being a liberal puke.
8,431 posted on 04/24/2007 11:00:19 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: jedward

Roger Dat,,,If folks just put the two together...


8,432 posted on 04/24/2007 11:00:34 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Beagle8U
Sorry, but I’ll tell everyone I can about Rooty and his lifelong record of being a liberal puke.

Well, if you must...
8,433 posted on 04/24/2007 11:03:26 PM PDT by dukakis kerry the dream team
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To: streetpreacher
Whew!!!

I had to put on a Scott pack to wade in here. The smoke, flames and the stench of the opused corpses are suffocating. A liberating experience.

"Free Republic is having a Goldwater moment so America might live to have a Reagan moment."

Exactly. It needed to be done. Let it be done.
The constitutional conservative base needs to unite - now.

All those who wish to join us -come on in the water is fine ;>)

/jasper

8,434 posted on 04/24/2007 11:04:42 PM PDT by Jasper (Stand Fast, Craigellachie !)
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To: Jasper

Only thing is....beware the smell of ozone.


8,435 posted on 04/24/2007 11:06:28 PM PDT by dukakis kerry the dream team
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

I have posted several times on FR that I thought George Bush was borrowing his “ownership society” mantra from Garrett Hardin. It’s one of the simplest and yet profound analogies.

The Tragedy of the Commons
Garrett Hardin (1968)
“The Tragedy of the Commons,” Garrett Hardin, Science, 162(1968):1243-1248.

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a391f6d546577.htm


8,436 posted on 04/24/2007 11:07:00 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: dukakis kerry the dream team
As I've stated; I have my Scott pack, and just donned my flame retardant clothing.

Flame on? So be it.

/jasper

8,437 posted on 04/24/2007 11:10:01 PM PDT by Jasper (Stand Fast, Craigellachie !)
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To: Jasper

That is a VERY good attitude!


8,438 posted on 04/24/2007 11:11:13 PM PDT by dukakis kerry the dream team
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Well...I appreciate that opinion. It makes sense.

I have no doubt that we'll get that happy family feeling once again, if Hillary Clinton and Bubba move back into Pennsylvania Avenue.

Our differences of opinion on various issues will once again take a back burner and we'll hopefully look back at this and laugh...together.

8,439 posted on 04/24/2007 11:11:34 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot
Calling you a liberal freeper is intended the way I describe myself as a far right winger. Kind of tongue in cheek. But you are the one who said you were liberal on social issues.

I’m actually pretty pragmatic, and supported Bush, Bush 2, and currently support Fred Thompson. I supported Buchanan over Dole in 1996, and of course Reagan in 1976, 1980, and 1984, but I am to the right on everything except censorship issues. I’m a live and let live Christian.

But why would you be surprised at my shock over that e-mail, given my own nine years here, and the adversarial relationships I’ve had with the entire liberal FR gang? I don’t think we’ve ever said anything nice to one another. All the posters that you said were “classics,” I think it was you anyway, to me have been regular thorns and nuisances. We never are on the same side of anything. Or so it seems. And that goes back to Clinton and the beginnings of this site.

So if you aren’t a lib, fine, but how about we agree on some things once in a while, and I don’t mean the WOT.

And I do hope you let Peach know I appreciated it, and that she was banned before I could get back to her.

8,440 posted on 04/24/2007 11:17:09 PM PDT by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way.)
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