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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: dynachrome
I watched the Easter South Park episode with my Southern Baptist mother. I thought she would have a coronary.

Bottom line message, Jesus was the hero of Easter. He died a wretched death voluntarily to save the world. You always have to wait the full thirty minutes to see what their final message is.

But all she saw was the way it was presented in typical SP style. I thought I would lose my mother for sure.

8,141 posted on 04/24/2007 7:22:41 PM PDT by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I’ve said I’d support anyone but McCain or Rudy if they get the nomination.

that includes even milquetoast Romney. But the primary is the time to pound the ground for the guy of your choice. I’ll live with some of the other hacks if need be, but I’m going full bore for the guy I know would be the best CIC, Hunter.


8,142 posted on 04/24/2007 7:22:42 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

this thread just keeps humming along, I’m caught up again place marker.


8,143 posted on 04/24/2007 7:24:07 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: floriduh voter
...this thread was on the Fox News crawler earlier tonight. They ran the title.

I find that very hard to believe.

8,144 posted on 04/24/2007 7:24:14 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
...what has amazed me reading over the founding fathers were how right they were about how fragile a thing liberty is, and how people would misuse and abuse power,

Hence the Second Amendment. The nations flush handle.
8,145 posted on 04/24/2007 7:24:39 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Keep them coming. They’re great.

I need to hang it up for awhile. This thread will probably hit 10k before I get back.


8,146 posted on 04/24/2007 7:24:40 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Luke21

the pastor at the church I used to go to before I moved sees Cartman as sort of his alter ego, in a way, I think...Someone gave him a Cartman doll dressed up in a black cassock, and he put a picture of it on his blog...


8,147 posted on 04/24/2007 7:25:00 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
He’s doing quite well for an officially undeclared candidate!

True, very true. But he will have to rev up the $$$ machine soon, I'd think.

8,148 posted on 04/24/2007 7:25:33 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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To: Luke21

“Easter South Park episode”
Funny stuff and even Bill Donohue of the Catholic League(?)
got the jokes.


8,149 posted on 04/24/2007 7:25:52 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; Spiff

I would like to see that. And also a chart like Spiff’s for each candidate all reachable from the front page


8,150 posted on 04/24/2007 7:25:57 PM PDT by MrEdd (Dogs think they're human, Cats think they're Gods.)
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To: merry10; Kevmo
“If so, as I’ve said before, will you ping Duncan Hunter Ambassador to this thread? I think he should see it.”

Why would he need to see it? Very little on this huge thread is about Duncan Hunter.

Do you plan to get Rooty signed up here? HE really should see this thread.

8,151 posted on 04/24/2007 7:26:10 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I missed his opus thread, do you have a link?


8,152 posted on 04/24/2007 7:26:19 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: pissant

That’s right where I am. Except I’d hold my nose and vote for Rudy in the general if it came to her or either the Hildebeast or Osama Obama. McCain? Nuh-uh. For him, I’d stay home. On some issues he’s better than Rudy, but I simply don’t trust McQueeg. AT ALL.

Hunter’s my favorite, Thompson’s probably the best conservative shot we’ve got. Huckabee seems to be getting some buzz lately, but hasn’t he been for a guest worker program and shamnesty?

}:-)4


8,153 posted on 04/24/2007 7:27:21 PM PDT by Moose4 (Yoiks, and away!)
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To: BykrBayb; X-FID; Howlin
” She wouldn’t hide out at some anti-FReeper site, trashing Free Republic..”

How would you know that? Did you know that she signed up over at that “other place” one month ago? Yep, sure did.

8,154 posted on 04/24/2007 7:29:14 PM PDT by dmw (Conservatives do NOT vote for liberals.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Jim was pretty shrewd on that one...LOL!


8,155 posted on 04/24/2007 7:29:54 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Kevmo

“””If Mexico didn’t have a two-thousand-mile long safety valve to bleed off 10% of their population and send $50 billion a year back south, maybe they’d actually get serious about fixing the structural problems in their own society.”””


America confiscates millions of weapons.

If we started a policy of sending back every illegal we catch with one of those weapons and fifty rounds of ammunition, those borders would become sealed pretty quickly.


8,156 posted on 04/24/2007 7:30:11 PM PDT by ansel12 ((America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.))
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To: BykrBayb
She explained her tagline on the same thread, ask her.

Or I can show you :)

8,157 posted on 04/24/2007 7:30:21 PM PDT by X-FID
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To: dmw; Howlin

I’m shocked. Shocked I tells ya!


8,158 posted on 04/24/2007 7:31:10 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: Mom MD

I hear you. I’m the first one to say that if someone has to resort to gutter language and insults they have officially lost the argument. I only use gutter language and insults AFTER I have won the debate.

In all seriousness...I think I’m hurt real bad. We were practicing falling on our face while supporting ourselves with our forearms. 30 times! I’m just a purple belt and a year away from Black Belt but I thought the whole idea of learning martial arts was so that the other guy fell down in a heap after a snap kick to the groin. :-)

Does the ulnar nerve just hurt more than other injuries? I imagine because it is so sensitive it must. How long will it take for the pain to go away?


8,159 posted on 04/24/2007 7:33:04 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: X-FID; Howlin
She explained her tagline on the same thread, ask her.

Or I can show you :)

How about it? Is there something you want us all to know?

8,160 posted on 04/24/2007 7:33:18 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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