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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: flashbunny

Get back to me when Richardson polls higher than 10% in the Dem primaries.


4,121 posted on 04/22/2007 9:41:23 PM PDT by cicero's_son (Vote Rudy! Annoy a wingnut.)
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To: EternalVigilance

It has been posted here many times. Go find it yourself. Back to my question... is that ALL you’ve got? Sheesh.


4,122 posted on 04/22/2007 9:41:25 PM PDT by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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To: cicero's_son
Right. Because Indiana, Ohio, Kentucky, Missouri, Iowa, Nebraska, and Kansas would go to Hillary. LOL.

Well, if Indiana, Ohio, Kentucky, Missouri, Iowa, Nebraska, and Kansas are anybody-but-Hillary states, then lots of Republicans are electable besides Giuliani, right? Excellent news!

4,123 posted on 04/22/2007 9:41:48 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: EternalVigilance
Reagan: "I don't know who this guy is, but I wouldn't buy a Buick from him."

Giuliani: "Man, I want this job! This house is so big, there would be room for TWO mistresses!"

LOL!!!!

4,124 posted on 04/22/2007 9:41:58 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: BigSkyFreeper
That's the disconnect among many here.

I believe the disconnect around here is that we need these Freepers and the many voters around the country who are similar to them.

If we can't convince these posters on this website that Rudy is not the one then we will never convince the many voters around the country, the same.

If we can't convince these posters on this website that a conservative like Fred is the one to support then we will never convince the many voters around the country, the same.

The road to beating Hillary with a good conservative passes through these type of voters.

4,125 posted on 04/22/2007 9:42:01 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: La Enchiladita

Must have been a plot to send me to youtube to get me behind in my reading again....


4,126 posted on 04/22/2007 9:42:07 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: EternalVigilance

Do your own homework.


4,127 posted on 04/22/2007 9:42:30 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
If you believe Rudy is no liberal, then you also believe Clinton was a saint.

Why can't you guys admit that you're wrong? All of the facts about Rudy is right there in front of you. The guy's a liberal, you are not going to convince conservatives to vote for Giuliani. Stop with the tomfoolery!

4,128 posted on 04/22/2007 9:42:44 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Ben Franklin, we tried but we couldn't keep it.)
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To: LowOiL

Cain’t help bein’ corny sometimes, especially during a marathon thread....:)


4,129 posted on 04/22/2007 9:42:51 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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To: onyx

Still here, but I’m planning on donating to Rudy as a result of this thread. No one tells me how to think or how to vote.


4,130 posted on 04/22/2007 9:42:52 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Never Let a Theocon Near a Textbook. Teach Evolution!)
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To: rintense
It has been posted here many times.

Should be easy to provide proof, then.

4,131 posted on 04/22/2007 9:42:57 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Laws that infringe on unalienable rights are not laws at all...they are in fact lawless edicts.)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

“It is both desirable and virtuous to seek the organization of Government according to a Biblical Theonomy — a sacrosanct respect for Life, Liberty, and Property, according to an organization favoring Decentralization and Constitutionalism (exmaples from Deuteronomy and Daniel available on request).”


Outstanding, as previously noted. I’d love seeing your examples, please.


4,132 posted on 04/22/2007 9:43:10 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: rbmillerjr
Bullcrap, there are alot of people that feel the same way

I'm aware of that, I was addressing one person in particular.

4,133 posted on 04/22/2007 9:43:19 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: mkjessup

I like your picture, but Reagan DID NOT appoint Giuliani. He was appointed by the Attorney General.


4,134 posted on 04/22/2007 9:43:20 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Torie
It is life enhancing, and give meaning and enjoyment to one’s being during our brief existence on this mortal coil,

I hesistate to play the Bard's pedant, but it's "in" this mortal coil. "Mortal coil" has reference to one's body. When one dies, his spirit shuffles off its coil, i.e., leaves the body.

Another common piece of fractured Shakespeare is "hoist on their own petard." A petard is an explosive, a bomb. Thus it is properly written "hoist by their own petard." Ask Rosencrantz and Guildenstern.

Before one shuffles off his mortal coil, before life's brief candle is put out, one should take time to read--deeply read (and occasionally memorize) and recite--Shakespeare. All of it. Even Titus Andronicus.

4,135 posted on 04/22/2007 9:43:24 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: mkjessup
I don’t really care about some anonymous wannabee. Actually, I did kinda accept your comment as humor, and you weren't exactly calling for my head.
4,136 posted on 04/22/2007 9:43:49 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Do your own homework.

I have. And you and your friends are making false claims about Fred Thompson's current position vis a vis CFR. I'm sick of it.

4,137 posted on 04/22/2007 9:44:10 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Laws that infringe on unalienable rights are not laws at all...they are in fact lawless edicts.)
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To: ellery

Problem is, guys like Hunter or Thompson have little to chance of winning states like New York, Connecticut, Oregon, Washington, New Jersey, etc.

Guiliani wins all of our solid Red states and makes us quite competitive in more than a few blue states.


4,138 posted on 04/22/2007 9:44:29 PM PDT by cicero's_son (Vote Rudy! Annoy a wingnut.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

You...are...tempting...me.....

LOL. One night last weekend, way past bedtime, I watched every version of Torvill and Dean’s “Bolero” performance.

OY!


4,139 posted on 04/22/2007 9:44:29 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

What’s your point?Some of these people I know and are my friends.Score card.


4,140 posted on 04/22/2007 9:44:38 PM PDT by fatima (Shut up Murtha)
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