Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?

[ohioWfan]

The opposite is true. You clearly prefer Hillary who will kill as many babies as possible. You must be a Clinton lover, since you will be actively supporting her run for the White House.

Now do you see how utterly STUPID your attacks on me are? Enough of this braindead rot from you.

I can't STAND Rudy. But you're less of a man than he is, and you are still a bald faced liar. I am as pro-life as any person on this forum........and I have a great deal of doubt that you give a rip about the unborn other than as a weapon to falsely attack others with.

Good bye.

[mkjessup]

Oh, and what have you done in the real world lately? This is all ya got, thats why I pity you.

You don't even know me, which demonstrates once again your propensity for talking out of your ass. What I do in the real world is none of your damn business, and I don't account to you anyway.

That thrashing you got in that Duncan Hunter thread really smarted didn't it?

[EternalVigilance]

Debate will be done elsewhere, not here, that is clear.

Are you opusing too?

[Politicalmom]

writeblock got zotted a few days ago.

[pablo H]

Fine.

So what the do you mean by the phrase “swiftboating”?

Is this positive or negative?

[don-o]

I had forgotten that howler.

[mkjessup]

Why are you screaming at him for providing a list to someone else?

I don't know Mom, ABG hadn't even bothered to show up until after more than 3700 posts in this monster thread, and I guess I was a convenient target. LOL

[little jeremiah]

Abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, gun grabbing, sanctuary cities for illegals, etc, are about as far from conservatism as you can get. And, yes, I believe all of this B/S is brought to us by the godless socialists. If you support all this crap, no way are you a conservative.

I know I'm late to the party, but this is the absolute truth. Thank you, JR!

[Knitting A Conundrum]

In fact, a lot of us women are very actively 100 percent hard core pro-life.

[garv]

Giuliani is absolutely not “considering a flat tax” and that information was already posted to you on this thread.

[fatima]

Well I like Peach,don’t agree with her but she is not here to defend herself and was does not always work here.

[Eric Blair 2084]

Nice 3 piece suit. Gotta love the 80’s. And he had hair! He looks really intimadated meeting Ronald Reagan IMHO.

[SittinYonder]

CeltJewLibertarian, too, IIRC

[Knitting A Conundrum]

LOL....yep, there are always those...

[Politicalmom]

Then he swore at me for calling him out for being a doofus, and now he won’t even acknowledge his doofusness.

[mkjessup]

with a bouncin’ IP?
Maybe he's on dial-up. Wouldn't that cause it?

No, I'm not on dial-up. I'm waiting for 68grunt to explain why he's even concerned about what my IP is.

[stephenjohnbanker]

“Rudy does have that temperament. He slapped around the establishment in NYCity and it’s in his nature to do it again in Washington. I’m not worried about Rudy on the border the chaos down there should inflame his law and order sensibilities and I think he would clamp down. Currently he is the only one talking about are insane tax code and considering a flat tax....wonderful. He also brings up vouchers...great. He also talks about drilling in the gulf when all the other pols are worring about losing FLA...more great

That leaves guns and abortion that is judges. Rudy knows that to accomplish cleaning up our fiscal mess and waging war on our Islamic enemies not to mention holding off the dims and the MSM he will need the base including the socons firmly in his camp. I would expect him to give on those....

Rudy has no credibility on the WOT with his “sanctuary city”
He is an open borders NYCentric jerk

He is pro gun control
He is pro abortion
He didn’t do anything extraordinary after 9/11 other than 72 photo ops, in 72 hours.

Rudy is an unmitigated POS!

[metmom]

Add: central scrutinizer

[Axenolith]

They won’t be able to win but it will ensure a Hillary presidency.

If we have a choice between a pell-mell streak to socialist craptopia versus a continuous creep with our own waffly "leaders", we should take the fast track, we'll still be young enough to fight it if it comes to that. We let "Rudys" get us there over 30 more years and we'll all be fossily old and the crop of kids/youger folks then will be school generated socialist lackeys...

[Torie]

A long slow goodbye. You guys can give yourself high fives, wihout disruption, as you talk to the choir.