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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Kevmo

Frankly, the Rudy Rooters are stuck on stupid.

Of course, they have the right to do that but not for any reason that is good for this Nation.


3,561 posted on 04/22/2007 7:09:55 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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To: dirtboy

Stoli?


3,562 posted on 04/22/2007 7:10:24 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: La Enchiladita

Keep reading. By morning, you could be only 1,400 posts behind. Btw, could you fill me in on the hundreds of posts I’ve skipped?


3,563 posted on 04/22/2007 7:11:06 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: loboinok

I’ll tell you what: If you see any evidence of Fred Thompson, the Father of CFR, changing his position vis a vis that subject, and making it clear that he understands how anti-Bill of Rights his legislation was, you let me know, okay?

All I’ve seen so far is him admitting straight out that he’s lost the political and ideological debate.


3,564 posted on 04/22/2007 7:11:19 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Laws that infringe on unalienable rights are not laws at all...they are in fact lawless edicts.)
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To: shrinkermd
The secret of any great political party, like any great human endeavor, is to find the common ground that builds an overwhelmingly effective organization.

The secret is to go back to the foundational principles and make sure that THEY are the common ground we build on. Otherwise, it's the Tower of Babel, built on sinking sand.

"Unless the LORD builds the house, they that labor, labor in vain."
3,565 posted on 04/22/2007 7:11:28 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you, Jim.


3,566 posted on 04/22/2007 7:11:39 PM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (If MY people who are called by MY name -- the ball's in our court, folks.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Nah, some really cheap-assed sh** that gives you a Thirsty Bedouin hangover like no other...


3,567 posted on 04/22/2007 7:12:27 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: La Enchiladita

Are your eyes giving out yet?!


3,568 posted on 04/22/2007 7:12:32 PM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: La Enchiladita

I think it was more the trashing of conservatives, along with lying about Rudy’s REAL record. I don’t blame Jim a bit for putting a sock in their mouths.


3,569 posted on 04/22/2007 7:12:37 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: mkjessup

BTW check Nautical nurses sign on date compared to yours. Nautical has also been at the Walter Reed FReeps. I’ll stick with Nautical Nurse as a FRiend any day.


3,570 posted on 04/22/2007 7:12:43 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..Doing real on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: dynachrome
"#3110 Another opus."

I regret I have only one user name to give for my RINO!!! LOL.
3,571 posted on 04/22/2007 7:13:26 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: trussell; Kevmo; Jim Robinson

“Jim...please see post 201. I’m not the only one who believes a mistake was made in banning Fierce Allegiance. Please reinstate his account...he is NOT a stalker!!!!”

Let me add my support for Fierce Allegiance, too!! He may get a little hyper, but he is one of the good guys.


3,572 posted on 04/22/2007 7:15:06 PM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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To: flashbunny

And one of them accused him of stalking and that is what got him banned


3,573 posted on 04/22/2007 7:15:08 PM PDT by trussell
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Well said.

There needs to be some ground you can stand on and know this is the bedrock.


3,574 posted on 04/22/2007 7:15:08 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: dirtboy

“Nah, some really cheap-assed sh** that gives you a Thirsty Bedouin hangover like no other...”

Man yu are ripe tonight : )

I’ll buy som Eau de Funk!


3,575 posted on 04/22/2007 7:15:31 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: mware
My FRiend she does not see them as RINO-stealth-liberals and RudyBots, she sees them as FRiend she had debated with for years.

In that case she needs to get to an optometrist to have her vision checked. Those departed souls are no friends of FR, no friends of Jim Robinson, and NO friends of mine. You know mware, it's kinda funny, such affectionate sentiments are exactly what true conservatives condemn in the U.S. Senate (for example) when we witness allegedly Republican senators cozying up to leftist/liberal 'Rat senators with all that 'hail good fellow welcome' horse manure that leads only to the dilution and compromise of what the GOP is supposed to stand for.

Why should we tolerate it here on FR?
3,576 posted on 04/22/2007 7:15:39 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
The secret is to go back to the foundational principles and make sure that THEY are the common ground we build on. Otherwise, it's the Tower of Babel, built on sinking sand.

I agree and returning to core Conservative values can be accomplished by Conservatives leaving the Socialist Republican party and forming their own party.
3,577 posted on 04/22/2007 7:16:12 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: La Enchiladita
Deep breathing... I can’t give up now... so close, so close...

Just keep repeating to yourself...I can do it.. I can do it! :-)

3,578 posted on 04/22/2007 7:16:15 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Jim Robinson
Very good questions all Mr Robinson. I’m not a Republican, but I’ve always voted Republican in presidential elections for all of the reasons you so eloquently stated in your post. If Rudy Giuliani is the Republican nominee, I will have no reason to vote Republican because Rudy is more liberal than Bill Clinton and Al Gore on most issues. I’ve only been old enough to vote in the last two elections and I hope I’m not forced to vote 3rd party; but I WILL do so if forced into it by the Republicans.
3,579 posted on 04/22/2007 7:16:53 PM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republians - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance; Jim Robinson

Amen!

Thank you Jim, for drawing the line in the sand, thank you for the clarity.. God grant you continued courage and strength.


3,580 posted on 04/22/2007 7:17:07 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and FRiends. ...Hunter '08.)
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