Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.
One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.
All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.
FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?
Do you really expect me to do that?
Oh, sorry, I misinterpreted. I read what you were talking about as a more general “GOP establishment supporting the squishy moderate/liberal/RINO over a true conservative candidate that could win.” My bad.
In that case, I think you were right, I can’t recall any other examples.
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If you, as a conservative, help Hillary get into the White House, you will, in fact, be responsible for the demise of America.
For quite a long time, the liberal ‘pandering’here has been going on and on and I just about quit this forum. I even e-mailed Jim Rob to tell him so, but, as fate would have it, the email wouldn’t go through. TWICE.
So I just logged off and would come here occasionally and, sure enough, the ‘Anybody but Hillary’ crowd just seemed to get more vocal and cynical.
It wasn’t until last night when Jim Rob posted this thread that I decided to log back on. Up until that point, the never ending ‘we must win no matter what’ mentality just seemed to out of control, and the disgust I was feeling about a ‘conservative’ site sounding more and more like some of the liberal ones I’ve read, just put me off.
I’m glad to see Jim cleaning house. And I wish the ‘Conservative’ party would do the same.
Gslob is channelling Ebenezer Scrooge.
Does that make him a Rockefeller Republican?
Sang the gal in pre-Nazi Germany who was sleeping with the bi-sexual. ;)
Good summary
What mythology would that be?
Ronald Reagan was a human being and thereby imperfect by creative design. He just happened to be the best conservative POTUS America has had since Calvin Coolidge. Comparing Rudy to Reagan is an insult. Comparing Bush43 to Reagan is wrong.
There is ONLY one Ronald Reagan and his legacy should be properly respected by ALL cosnervatives.
ps- if you want to get banned, use Peaches strategy. It worked well for her. Just ask JimRob.
One of the (many) things that isn’t right about the illegal immigration fiasco is that the government currently looks the other way re illegal immigrants from south of the border, but others -— including Irish, Thai, African, etal — when caught here illegally, get roundly deported.
And many, who apply the legal route from other countries, are rejected or have their applications severely delayed.
There is a GROSS INEQUITY in the immigration system. The current administration has filled all top posts with Latin Americans.
EVERYONE who immigrates legally should learn English and citizenship. Your illegals bypass all that. I don’t care how many hours a day they “work hard” etc.... they are bypassing our immigration laws, and BTW, many of our other laws and that is IMMORAL.
The Latin American immigrants are demanding, and receiving, favoritism in terms of language and state benefits. We are rapidly becoming BI-CULTURAL. Witness food packaging, voice mail menus, customer service, media, healthcare, voting ballots and more .... all offering options in Spanish. If we don’t provide “Spanish on demand” at the hospital, we can be fined and otherwise penalized.
This immigration fight is about the MORAL FIBER of our Nation, and about preserving our culture. I have no disrespect for the cultures of other nations, and I do not accept disrespect for ours by those who migrate here either legally or illegally.
What is the use of winning if the Republican is a liberal, too? I will not support Rudy the liberal under any circumstances.
If you, as a conservative, help Giuliani get into the White House, you will, in fact, be responsible for the demise of America.
I don’t think gun rights groups think it’s “off the table”, considering there is another weapons ban working its way through the system as we speak.
Giuliani will NEVER get support from second amendment voters.
And if you, as a republican, help elect a Gramscian leftist like Rudy Giuliani to lead the only party standing in the way of the complete socialist takeover of the United States, you will, in fact, have pulled the feeding tube on western civilization.
Spiff was on a roll!
You are late to the party, but yes, I’m serious. There were three names “offered” to my request for the name of a freeper who actually said they would “vote for hillary”, and not one of those people ever said they would “vote for hillary”.
This was all in response to a charge that there were a bunch of freepers who supported hillary, INCLUDING some who said they would vote for her.
I don’t doubt that a freeper said it somewhere, I doubt it’s common, and I doubt they meant it. So I asked for the facts, and got NOTHING.
Maybe you would find a freeper who said he would actually vote for Hillary if her opponent is Rudy, so I can see if they were serious or just engaging in hyperbole. If they were serious we can laugh at them.
Do you know of one?
You were born too late. You should have been in political control in 1939.
I’m not the media - that’s why you can’t hear.
Let me emphasize again that I am not sold on Giuliani, though I am also certainly not against Giuliani either, at least not yet. But, having said that, can you point out to me a single instance where Giuliani’s positions have varied from those posted there?
No...
If I believed that for a nano-second I would vote for Rudy....but in the strongest terms, I tell you that America’s demise is not and will not be the fault of Conservatives.
We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion.
Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people.
It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
— President John Adams, 1798
2nd Timothy 3:1 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!
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