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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: BykrBayb

Bears repeating. And, as I posted earlier, you were spot on during this thread. Best wishes.

I love Free Republic.

I love God.

I love USA.

I love fatima.

I love FReepers.

Go team, go!


16,341 posted on 04/30/2007 1:25:30 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: DCPatriot

That’s a beautiful picture.


16,342 posted on 04/30/2007 1:26:07 PM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

That weren’t no white flag.


16,343 posted on 04/30/2007 1:26:24 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Anti Islam and a Global Warming denier - piss on Islam)
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To: wagglebee

I think I can work with that for voucher credits. All may freepmail me for the PO Box to which the orders may be sent. These voucher credits are real useful.


16,344 posted on 04/30/2007 1:26:42 PM PDT by don-o (Proudly posting without reading the thread since 1998.)
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To: DCPatriot

Awesome picture!


16,345 posted on 04/30/2007 1:26:46 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: DCPatriot
That picture brought a happy tear to my eye. I hope you don't me posting it again.


16,346 posted on 04/30/2007 1:26:52 PM PDT by BykrBayb (I've had a howlingly good week, and I'm feeling just peachy. Þ)
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To: processing please hold

I’d like to think he’s going to announce but I don’t think he’s going to do it just yet. I was told that the final episode of Law & Order is on May 18th and if he were to announce before then, they’d have to not air the rest of the season’s shows. Now I don’t know if that is true or not.

I like Hunter too, but so far, I’m still hoping for Fred Thompson. You’d think that Fox would say who is going to be on Hannity & Colmes today...on their website. Maybe I’m just blind but I didn’t see it. ;)


16,347 posted on 04/30/2007 1:27:13 PM PDT by Chena (Why settle for less when you could have the best! Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: wagglebee

Carbon credits for Killing the Thread!


16,348 posted on 04/30/2007 1:27:41 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: EternalVigilance; Leatherneck_MT
While you are using hyperbole to make your point, which you pretty much admitted prior to making it, I believe your example to be an apt one. The lesser of two evils is still evil. And nowhere in my Bible do I find any excuse for supporting evil in any way, shape or form. Stand for what's right, and leave the consequences to God. That's my philosophy, and I think it jives with the founders'.

That is exactly the approach that conservatives should take in regards to the choices they make regarding our elected officials and those who would seek to lead us.

If something is evil, it is evil. There is no distinction between (for example) those who physically shoved Jews into the gas ovens, and those who managed the death camps. No difference between the Nazi thug who clubbed an innocent Jew to death on the street, and the well mannered Dr. Megele' who conducted medical experiments on Jews before they were murdered. The net result is the same. Evil is evil.

In the upcoming primaries and general election, Americans will have a choice, they can either condone the infanticidal views of the likes of Rudy Giuliani and/or Hillary Clinton, or they can emulate Nancy Reagan and "just say NO" to such pro-abortionist candidates. As already pointed out, if such a candidate ends up being elected anyway, that is the fault of the political organization that promoted them, not the voters who retain a conscience, who still embrace human decency and morality.

It may well turn out to be America's fate that a liberal, gun-grabbing abortionist will win the Presidency in 2008, but if that happens, it will not be the fault of conservatives who refuse to 'go along to get along', it will be because one or both major Parties sold out their voters, and sold out America by trying to foist such amoral individuals upon our society.
16,349 posted on 04/30/2007 1:30:27 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: Kevmo; Jim Robinson

Jim’s right. It’s gone on long enough, and I’ve noticed in the past day or so that conservatives were really starting to turn on each other.

The liberals are either gone or so well hidden that this thread was never going to draw them out.

It’s time to put it to rest.


16,350 posted on 04/30/2007 1:30:32 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: All

As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc. We also oppose the United Nations or any other world government body that may attempt to impose its will or rule over our sovereign nation and sovereign people. We believe in defending our borders, our constitution and our national sovereignty.


16,351 posted on 04/30/2007 1:30:41 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

~~~~That’s The Original..”These Colors Don’t Run.”~~~~


16,352 posted on 04/30/2007 1:31:07 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Kevmo

This reminds of the one about the crowd that paid good money to see a fight ... and, lo and behold, a hockey game broke out!


16,353 posted on 04/30/2007 1:31:26 PM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: Jim Robinson

We love Free Republic.

We love the USA.

God Bless Jim Robinson.

Kill the thread!


16,354 posted on 04/30/2007 1:32:09 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Kevmo

What a great mission statement.
I love that.


16,355 posted on 04/30/2007 1:32:56 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: Kevmo
You(we)have chosen wisely. :)

Go Hunter!

16,356 posted on 04/30/2007 1:33:12 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Jim Robinson
It's time for the reconciliation and healing to begin, and then let's get back to work. We've plenty of work to do putting our own house in order, then redoubling our efforts in promoting the best conservatives to represent us.

No better time than the present to start. bttt

16,357 posted on 04/30/2007 1:34:55 PM PDT by Chena (Why settle for less when you could have the best! Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: DCPatriot

OHHHH, what a beautiful picture! :)


16,358 posted on 04/30/2007 1:35:23 PM PDT by Chena (Why settle for less when you could have the best! Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: Jim Robinson
It's time for the reconciliation and healing to begin, and then let's get back to work. We've plenty of work to do putting our own house in order, then redoubling our efforts in promoting the best conservatives to represent us.

Bears repeating.

You've got a great site here, Jim. It's done a lot of good for our country, and for many people individually. Thanks for all you do, and thanks for putting up with me and letting me post here.

On to victory!


16,359 posted on 04/30/2007 1:36:23 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: NapkinUser

Hey, NU:

Let’s ping the Stop Rudy list and jump in here to KILL THE THREAD. ONLY POST POSITIVE COMMENTS.

We Love Free Republic! Let the healing begin.


16,360 posted on 04/30/2007 1:36:39 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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