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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: dixiechick2000

“What makes WideAwakes an anti-FReeper site or the new Clown Posse?”

Because of the management, and the fact that they have a “secret room.”

Why not open everything to the public?


Discussion or facts matter was not wanted here any longer. Why would you want to now see the discussion or fact finding?

Best wishes and kind thoughts


14,581 posted on 04/29/2007 12:34:49 AM PDT by Rheo
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To: Jim Robinson
What the heck is all this Keyes stuff about?

That's what I was trying to find out.

In answer to your second question, FR plays no role in any campaign. Have no idea why you would direct such question to anyone but me. Have noticed a whole lot of people piling on to EV lately. What’s this all about?

Thanks. I was really asking about EV's intentions, which is why I posted my questions to him.

14,582 posted on 04/29/2007 12:35:52 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Jim Robinson
It’s the GOP that’s fast becoming a laughing stock.

Yep, and conservatives became a laughing stock the last election by some "sitting it out." That is NOT a solution... ticked me off no end.

14,583 posted on 04/29/2007 12:36:17 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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To: EternalVigilance; Interesting Times; Nick Danger
Now you’re being lame and silly.

Go ahead and gnash your teeth. I don’t care

I seem to remember another Presidential candidate's advisor saying something like that. Funny, it didn't work out too well for that candidate either.

14,584 posted on 04/29/2007 12:36:27 AM PDT by The Shrew (www.swiftvets.com & www.wintersoldier.com - The Truth Shall Set YOU Free!)
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To: NautiNurse

“The recent zots have not impacted my disposition one way or another...”

Sure they have. You don’t like it that some of your friends have been zotted. That is understandable. But they did everything on their own acord. They slammed conservative candidates and icons like RWR as part of a tactic to bolster support for Giuliani. They showed utter contempt to the owner of this site.

You’re sad that these people are gone and many of us are glad to see them gone.


14,585 posted on 04/29/2007 12:37:13 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("You tell them I'm comin...and hell's comin with me"!)
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To: Rheo

“Discussion or facts matter was not wanted here any longer. Why would you want to now see the discussion or fact finding?”

???

I’m trying to understand what you are saying.

Facts, and discussion, matter a great deal here.

My only interest in this thread is that some very abusive people are gone.


14,586 posted on 04/29/2007 12:39:01 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: Allegra

Hey Kid!,,,Git Off That Roof !!...;0)


14,587 posted on 04/29/2007 12:39:47 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: rbmillerjr

You are now the pillar of FR PR.....let your voice ring loud and clear.

Best wishes


14,588 posted on 04/29/2007 12:41:00 AM PDT by Rheo
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To: Texas Mom
I am against abortion, gun control, tax increases, homosexual marriage as much as the next guy but if we don't win this war on terror and the Muslim fanatic succeed those other things will be the least of our worries.

According to your tagline, you place a certain amount of emphasis on the Bible. I do myself as you probable can surmise.

When looking for a canidate I take it to the source... should I support a pro-homosexual, pro-illegal alien person, pro-abortion... well of course not... but what if that person was the supposeable the lesser of two evils? Well... I take it to the source again...

"And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just." Romans 3:8..

What does that tell me... that voting for a evil person hoping that some good may come out of it is not only NOT good, but that our damnation is just if we do it.

Ouch... that leaves Rudy out in the cold big time... but again... I can only take it to the source on such questions... if you can show me otherwise.. please do so.

14,589 posted on 04/29/2007 12:42:26 AM PDT by LowOiL (Paul wrote, "Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil" (Rom. 12:9))
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To: The Shrew

I’m sure that’s meaningful to someone.

*shrug*


14,590 posted on 04/29/2007 12:43:50 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: dixiechick2000

My only interest in this thread is that some very abusive people are gone.


My bad.....your interest was originally in the “secret room” at WA. The abusive people are gone.....so life is good!


14,591 posted on 04/29/2007 12:44:43 AM PDT by Rheo
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To: rbmillerjr; NautiNurse
If either of you want the NautiNurse appointed "Minister of Conservative Purity" to mediate this dispute, just ping me.

It's what I'm here for. LOL
14,592 posted on 04/29/2007 12:46:29 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: woofie

I take it you still can’t come up with a reason you’re angry with me? I’m deserving of your anger, but you don’t know why?


14,593 posted on 04/29/2007 12:46:59 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: Rheo

Thank you for posting a coherent reply.


14,594 posted on 04/29/2007 12:47:43 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: BykrBayb
Well, that is what anti-freepers claim it means.

So I guess that makes me an anti-FReeper, since you seem to say so.

Do you understand how silly it sounds to say "You post on another news forum! You're an anti-FReeper!" - even if that poster is a FReeper in good standing and living by this site's ground rules? Or "You think to that some, the phrase "anti-FReeper" means FReepers or former FReepers who post on websites that those FReepers don't like! You're an anti-FReeper!".

Can you understand why that type of attitude would make the more timid but thoughtful among us who are thinking of spending more time at the "anti-FReeper" site WideAwakes spend less time on Free Republic, or lurkers from other sites not want to start posting here? Is that a good thing?
14,595 posted on 04/29/2007 12:48:19 AM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: dixiechick2000

It was just a lucky moment....don’t find me in those often.


14,596 posted on 04/29/2007 12:48:31 AM PDT by Rheo
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To: Rheo

LOL!

You’re cute. ;o)


14,597 posted on 04/29/2007 12:49:41 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: Mojave; dixiechick2000

Yes they do. It was designated “The Salt River,” although that may have been a nickname for it. They have also created a “New Chat Room.” Whether this new “chat” room is replacing the old one is an open question. Both categories are closed to non-members. They apparently do not wish to have non-members and casual internet viewers to look at their chatty comments.


14,598 posted on 04/29/2007 12:49:48 AM PDT by gpapa
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To: sissyjane; EternalVigilance
How can you [EV] afford to post so often? Don’t you work? Is someone paying you to be the FR pitbull?

I don't know who's paying EV, but when he's done, I've got some RINOs in my neighborhood I'd like to hire him to chew on a bit.

Thinning the herd?


Apparently not. You're still here aren't you?
14,599 posted on 04/29/2007 12:50:43 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: Lando Lincoln

If you wish to flush out those who think “differently” you will find only an echo chamber left behind.
***That is not the case. The ones who are leaving are doing it by several forms of freepercide.

For you to judge them over their last how-ever-many posts is patently wrong. It is sad. It is wrong. It is punitive. And it is telling.
***Then why don’t you check out this post and see what these folks are saying about us at WA, that they’ve hated us all along and were only trying to disrupt us. Can we judge them over those kinds of posts? Would you be in agreement that those types of freepers deserve what they got? As you stated, it is telling.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1821435/posts?page=13340#13340


14,600 posted on 04/29/2007 12:52:26 AM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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