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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: new cruelty

Thanks so much new cruelty. I have known your posts and I read you wrong. I am sorry. God Bless, my FRiend.


14,501 posted on 04/28/2007 11:50:22 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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To: woofie
Where is Quidam when you need him?

The suits are coming tomorrow.

It seems there are changes in the air.

All's well that ends well.

In the forest too.

14,502 posted on 04/28/2007 11:50:47 PM PDT by IrishRainy (I used to NEVER finish anything, but now I)
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To: conservative in nyc

Anti-freepers.

There, I’ve answered your question. Now answer mine. How did this thread, or anything on it, cause that anti-freeper site to spring up over a month ago?


14,503 posted on 04/28/2007 11:51:06 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: conservative in nyc
And FReepers were joining Lucianne.

That's pretty desperate,

14,504 posted on 04/28/2007 11:51:29 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: rbmillerjr
I beg to differ, she can’t support her charges, their [sic] just bullying and childish shrill Howlin type attacks. Her role model I guess...and our tactics don’t differ from the owner of the site.

I can't support what charges? Your bullying, insults, name-calling? Or your lack of conservative actions beyond keyboard pounding? Surely you jest. You just can't get over your obsession with Howlin either. You are boring me now with your repeated insults and innuendos in lieu of conservative credentials. Yawn.

p.s. Don't forget to read my tagline. I didn't hoist it simply in honor of this thread.

14,505 posted on 04/28/2007 11:52:14 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Action speaks louder than words but not nearly as often.)
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To: EternalVigilance

That would be like a pre-conceived conspiracy in reverse...or something like that :)


14,506 posted on 04/28/2007 11:52:47 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: dukakis kerry the dream team

March 5th was the startup date for that new anti-FReeper site, that we are being told, is really not an anti-Freeper site. Its just populated with ex-Freepers who can’t or won’t FReep on FR anymore.

Say that ten times fast.


14,507 posted on 04/28/2007 11:53:10 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: new cruelty; Lando Lincoln
“dmw’s post gave me a chuckle.”

Yeah, asking people to be fair and unbiased often makes people chuckle. I guess they think only the other side has to follow the rules and do the right thing--but not them. LL made a reasonable request of us, but the problem is, he only admonished us, and not his buddies over at WW. If you can’t see the hypocrisy in that, then just keep on chuckling friend.

14,508 posted on 04/28/2007 11:53:17 PM PDT by dmw (Conservatives DON'T vote for liberals.)
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To: IrishRainy
The suits are coming tomorrow.

Jack Thompson?

14,509 posted on 04/28/2007 11:55:14 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Lando Lincoln

It’s not your fault. I just wasn’t clear. At any rate, thanks for the well-wishes, have a good night and take care.


14,510 posted on 04/28/2007 11:55:28 PM PDT by new cruelty
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To: BykrBayb
I don’t remember seeing you before tonight. Are you an important person?

You dont deserve an answer, but what the hell...I wont be going to bed for a while. Yea, I am an "important person" not because of what Ive accomplished (Im not about to go into that on this site) but because I have been here since 1998 and I have always tried to be kind to my fellow freepers...Yep, Ive apologized a few times (its easy to step over the line on the internet) but I always pulled myself up short and if I was wrong I admitted it.

My posting history is there for you to see until I get banned,and I think you will mostly find it full of good humor.I have over the years gotten many personal notes from people telling me I made them laugh.

But now I am angry, and you and your like minded sycophants are most deserving of that anger.What has happened here is a travesty and you are the fools and do not have a clue.

14,511 posted on 04/28/2007 11:55:59 PM PDT by woofie (Are you a liberal ? be careful it can happen suddenly and without warning...)
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To: woofie

Lighten up Francis


14,512 posted on 04/28/2007 11:57:27 PM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: EternalVigilance
Then you have nothing to concern you.

Actually, that's not the case. I've been a member here for more than 8 years, and I've invested a significant amount of time and effort in FR-related activities of various sorts.

My questions are:

1) Is Mr. Keyes planning another fundraising / election campaign in the near future?

2) Do you envision FR playing a role in such a campaign?

14,513 posted on 04/28/2007 11:58:22 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: woofie
I’ll vote for Sharpton over Keyes any day....

And you remain on this conservative site for what reason?

14,514 posted on 04/28/2007 11:58:23 PM PDT by Gelato (... a liberal is a liberal is a liberal ...)
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To: woofie

You’re pretty vague. What are you accusing me of? Can you link me to a post that shows I’m guilty of whatever it is you think I did?


14,515 posted on 04/28/2007 11:58:49 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: dmw; Lando Lincoln

gosh, you’re right. I just found out that he’s telling the folks at babysonthehalftip.com something all together different.


14,516 posted on 04/28/2007 11:59:28 PM PDT by new cruelty
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To: Reagan Man
March 5th was the startup date for that new anti-FReeper site, that we are being told, is really not an anti-Freeper site. Its just populated with ex-Freepers who can’t or won’t FReep on FR anymore.

Say that ten times fast.


I can't. But I can say "They're just a bunch of Jokers"--will that do?
14,517 posted on 04/28/2007 11:59:47 PM PDT by dukakis kerry the dream team
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To: BykrBayb; MadIvan
Anti-freepers.

Define "anti-FReeper".

There, I’ve answered your question. Now answer mine. How did this thread, or anything on it, cause that anti-freeper site to spring up over a month ago?

I do not understand what you are asking. Obviously, this thread had nothing to do with MadIvan deciding to start his website a month ago, since this thread didn't exist. And I can't speak for MadIvan as to why he started his website - although it looks like a news forum, not an "anti-Freeper" site to me. It just happens to be populated with a bunch of FReepers and former FReepers, some of whom were purged from here, and others of whom have opused out or stopped posting here.
14,518 posted on 04/28/2007 11:59:53 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: jedward

Well,,,you catch-on quick,,,just like burnin’ $h**!,,,;0)
Gotta Burn Them “Honey-Pots” sometimes...LOL;0)


14,519 posted on 04/28/2007 11:59:54 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: NautiNurse

Nice try. You are the bully, you are the shrill insulter, all one has to do is check you comments to several of the posters on this board fighting for conservatives and against that baby killing, gun grabbing Giuliani.

So you may consider yourself a good conservtive based on you past actions...but I don’t...you have attempted to use bullying tactics to quiet several people on here. Ive had it with you and I will respond in kind.

If you can’t take it, don’t dish it out...I’m just getting warned up.


14,520 posted on 04/28/2007 11:59:55 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("You tell them I'm comin...and hell's comin with me"!)
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