Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?

[bluecollarman]

Howlin was a girl? I never knew.

[Sir Gawain]

I don’t see it that way. What’s happened is that the “Win At All Costs” faction has finally been unmasked by Rudy. They could hide it with Bush because he was somewhat conservative, but with Rudy there really is no excuse for tossing out principle just to get a win in ‘08. Conservatives have to draw a line somewhere, and I for one am glad to see Jim do just that. That’s not a kiss up statement either because Jim probably still doesn’t like me (can’t figure out why).

[EternalVigilance]

Goodbye

How many opera does that make now?

[Jim Robinson]

FR peaceful? Bwahahahahahhahahahah!!

[wagglebee]

That’s a whimper, not an opus.

[sissyjane]

Well, we know how well that worked out in 2006. Good luck with it.

I’m afraid that your version of conservatism is going the way of the dinosaurs.

[ozarkgirl]

Meow, pffft, pfft, pfft! You can’t tell a woman when you hear one? :)

Course, I could be wrong, but I don’t think so.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

There was room for several smarmy jokes that popped into my mind with that statement...must...resist...smarm.........

[beandog]

You’re right.

[EternalVigilance]

:-)

[Spiff]

You will “KEEP” me around as an example - that’s rich. FR has become one big circle jerk. Not with a bang, but with a whimper. I mourn the great site this once was. Goodbye Jim. It was a great decade and it’s been an interesting ride. I wish you and your family nothing but happiness. Life is too short for this kind of nonsense. Please close my account.

BZZZZZZZZTTTTTTT!

[Knitting A Conundrum]

I didn’t think she was a woman at first, either...but she is.

[Delphinium]

Why do you think that has happened?

Maybe fear, but many of them never believed it in the first place.

[EternalVigilance]

[bjs1779]

Please close my account.

Isn't that something? Jim won't accept your opus!

[beandog]

Sometimes we women are meaner than any man around. :)

[Delphinium]

Boy this thread is still going?

I am busy working on the vote I told you about. Having GREAT luck.

I'm coming to Boise in the AM, but will only stay a short time, no baby yet.

[Redcloak]

Thanks for cleaning house Jim. I don't mind debating the Rudybots, but when they start to live up to that nickname, it gets a bit tiring. I still can't believe some of the things I've read here; things that "conservatives" posted to justify Giuliani's liberalism. I actually saw one OF (Old FReeper) praise NYC's gun laws in order to support Giuliani's anti-gun history. This was an OF, not some clueless n00b or a retread! I had to reread the post twice to make sure I was really seeing this.

The Rudybots' one and only reason to support the guy is "he can beat Hillary". I want to scream "But he IS Hillary!" And they too are turning into Hillary to support Giuliani. They are taking positions on issue after issue that are lockstep with Her Heinous; all to justify Giuliani's liberalism. They are clearly on the wrong web site.

I don't care if Giuliani really is the one and only candidate that can beat Clinton. I've said this before: I'd rather see the Party lose an election than see it lose its soul.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

here's my diagram about where to sit (IMHO)



The dark gray area is where you want to be! Best view, best company, best results!

[JustaDumbBlonde]

"Goodbye Jim. It was a great decade and it’s been an interesting ride. I wish you and your family nothing but happiness. Life is too short for this kind of nonsense. Please close my account."

For this plan to actually work, you must never post again. Never. < /wishful thinking >

It's kinda like kicking the sauce ... one day at a time, so I'm told. You can do this.